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    NYC Police accidently shoot and kill man fleeing an armed robber.....

    "There was no sign that the shooter and other officers at the scene mishandled the situation," police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.
    "The tragedy here of course was that Mr. Cuevas was shot, but I see nothing wrong with the procedure," he said.

    SERIOUSLY???? nothing wrong with the procedure? how about the dead crime victim?

    NY police accidentally shoot shop worker to death - Yahoo! News

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    Re: NYC Police accidently shoot and kill man fleeing an armed robber.....

    I will withhold judgement till all the facts are out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMpops View Post
    I will withhold judgement till all the facts are out.
    i will step up and take the position that i am against the NYPD shooting innocent bystanders and crime victims. i know i might be facing ridicule here but its just how i feel. the cops need to be shooting bad guys. shooting good guys SHOULD be a sign of BAD procedure!


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    What happened to the video? I tried to watch it but it was gone.

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    It's no secret the NYPD are dangerous to anyone when you put a gun in their hand.Considering the political environment there this doesn't surprise me at all.Obama must be pissed,now he has competition on suppression and socialist takeover.

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    Seems that lately, more people are being shot by the police, than by the bad guys..................how are those gun laws workin for you Yorkers?

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    Robber : "Gimme all your money #$% %^&* or i will call the police!!!"

    Victim : " Please dont do that! I will cooperate ! No one has to die here today!"

    Robber : Hurry the %$^& up! Dont make me dial 911!!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntzMa View Post
    What happened to the video? I tried to watch it but it was gone.
    it was up and running when i posted this.... short clips from 4 different security cams that ended way too soon.... released by the police of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
    "There was no sign that the shooter and other officers at the scene mishandled the situation," police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.
    "The tragedy here of course was that Mr. Cuevas was shot, but I see nothing wrong with the procedure," he said.
    This guy still has a job? Only allowing cops and criminals to have guns is working out real well huh?

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    NYC Police accidently shoot and kill man fleeing an armed robber.....

    Until all the facts are known, the point is moot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy_CZ View Post
    Until all the facts are known, the point is moot.
    what other facts do you need?

    the guy who was shot was the VICTIM. (said the commissioner)
    the cop shot him accidently.(said the commissioner)
    he died. (said the commissioner)
    the police commissioner doesnt think there was anything wrong with procedure. (said the commissioner)

    using the police commissioner own statement as a collection of facts presented to the public, i contend that the facts are known and i still stand by my opinion that the police should not shoot innocent bystanders or crime victims. its bad procedure anywhere but in NYC

    how do you accidentally shoot someone while following procedure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
    Robber : "Gimme all your money #$% %^&* or i will call the police!!!"

    Victim : " Please dont do that! I will cooperate ! No one has to die here today!"

    Robber : Hurry the %$^& up! Dont make me dial 911!!!!"

    That's just funny ri there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy_CZ View Post
    Until all the facts are known, the point is moot.
    Are you a NYC cop or something? Ted's reply to your post was spot on.

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    Damn shame...

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    Some of the facts might make the situation a bit clearer ie: was the victim running toward the cop with a handgun ?(highly doubtful) since he was the victim. Details on what went wrong might make this happening again in the future less likely if information was used in training and retraining........JJ

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    Video is still working

    I just watched it.


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    Hhmm... I must be lookin at the wrong one. Eh well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
    what other facts do you need?

    the guy who was shot was the VICTIM. (said the commissioner)
    the cop shot him accidently.(said the commissioner)
    he died. (said the commissioner)
    the police commissioner doesnt think there was anything wrong with procedure. (said the commissioner)

    using the police commissioner own statement as a collection of facts presented to the public, i contend that the facts are known and i still stand by my opinion that the police should not shoot innocent bystanders or crime victims. its bad procedure anywhere but in NYC

    how do you accidentally shoot someone while following procedure?
    Right?!? Seems as though the police are covering for each other.

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    No cover up really. It's more like, "Dude, $*it happens. Our Bad."
    I've always assumed that NYPD had those ridiculous triggers on their Glocks to prevent just such incidents/accidents. Maybe they need to go heavier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overkill0084 View Post
    No cover up really. It's more like, "Dude, $*it happens. Our Bad."
    I've always assumed that NYPD had those ridiculous triggers on their Glocks to prevent just such incidents/accidents. Maybe they need to go heavier?
    the origins of the NY trigger for the glocks was to prevent the NYPD from CONTINUING to shoot themselves while drawing their weapons..... for gods sake do not train the police to keep the finger off the trigger, just make the trigger harder to pull! ..... this is and always has been horrible procedure

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