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    Quote Originally Posted by kg333 View Post
    Of course, you're lucky to even have a carry license up there...you have to display pressing need to apply for one, and self defense isn't considered a valid reason.

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    It sounds like you know from experience kg333. Did you live in Mass.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1shot1kill View Post
    It sounds like you know from experience kg333. Did you live in Mass.?
    Nope, but I took a look at their laws when I was considering a job up that way, and checked with people who have lived there. I really didn't like what I heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kg333 View Post
    Nope, but I took a look at their laws when I was considering a job up that way, and checked with people who have lived there. I really didn't like what I heard.

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    I don't blame you. If you lived within the city limits of Boston, forget it you have no chance. Living in almost any of the other towns in Mass. though you should't have a problem obtaining a ccw. My reason was simple. "All lawful purposes". Both my wife and I have no restrictions on our licenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clanger View Post
    LOL @ that map with Calif on it !!!

    Try getting a CCW permit here or in any major metropolis south of Truckee.
    Try carrying open or concealed, esp in a restaurant. Not unless ya like being a walking cop's bullet trap.

    That thing's clazy!
    Yeah...I saw CA and HI listed as places you can carry...pretty funny. Up until a few years ago there were no permits issued in Hawaii. Now I've learned that there are a handful issued to security guards. At least that's progress...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce333 View Post
    At least that's progress...
    And let's hope it continues.

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    Maybe I am out of the loop here but my AL concealed carry permit says right on the back of it " Your pistol license does not allow you to carry a pistol in any place that serves alcohol or while you are drinking or using any illegal drug." The permit is less than a year old so either they have changed that law or that map at the beginning of the thread is out of date. Which one is it? Thanks.

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    Move to a different County...

    from www.handgunlaw.us

    Note: Sheriffs in Alabama can and do put other restrictions on the permit holders they issue to. Do be
    aware of any of those restrictions that may be on your permit/license to carry. Carrying where alcohol is
    served or consuming alcohol while carrying is one I have seen on more than one Alabama Sheriffs web site
    that adds these restrictions. Government buildings are another restricted item they add. Most state City,
    County and State Government Buildings are off limits. Again do be aware of any restriction on your
    permit/license.These restrictions if noted on the permit/license would be in effect in any other county in
    Alabama you would visit. When going out of state and carrying on an Alabama permit/license that Alabama
    honors you must go by the laws of the state you are in.
    If it is on your permit not to then you can't, but there is no State Statute the prohibits it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce333 View Post
    Move to a different County...
    Thanks for the info Bruce. I live in Tuscaloosa county which is the home of The University of Alabama which I assume has something to do with the no carry in bars rule. We have been known as a drinking town with a football problem . ROLL TIDE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clanger View Post
    Help a clueless brother out .... what's the 51 rule?

    Here in Texas the "51 Rule" means no CHL carry in a restaurant/bar estabishment that derives 51% or more of it's revenue from alcoholic drinks. It does not include liquor stores.

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    I just finished the required CC class so this is fresh on my memory.

    In NC you cannot CC anywhere alcohol is sold and consumed (critical part is the and).

    The next statute that is also critical is: you cannot CC AFTER consuming alcohol!

    the second part is absolute, get caught and you will loose your right to CC in NC.

    YMMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnr View Post
    I just finished the required CC class so this is fresh on my memory.

    In NC you cannot CC anywhere alcohol is sold and consumed (critical part is the and).
    actually the way it is written is a flat out ban on being in possession of any firearm where alcohol is sold and consumed...the Statute doesn't just prohibit concealed carry... it prohibits open carry as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefyBeefo View Post
    So far, I've only encountered one here and that was Buffalo Wild Wings. I think this is a pretty common place to have a sign from what I've heard. Needless to say, I don't go there anymore.
    I wonder if thats a rule put in place by indivdual owner/managers. The BWW near me doesnt have one of those signs.

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    I about choaked when I read this in the paper. Thats all TN needs is a bunch of trigger happy drunks around. Like the violence isn't bad enough here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan92631043 View Post
    I about choaked when I read this in the paper. Thats all TN needs is a bunch of trigger happy drunks around. Like the violence isn't bad enough here.
    ??? and that's the kind of attitude that keeps me from being able to go eat in a nice restaurant without worrying about having to leave my gun in the car.

    you do understand this doesn't allow you to drink and carry a gun...

    I really don't know what TN laws are, but here in NC it is illegal to have any firearm in your possession if you have any alcohol in your system at all, regardless of where you are.
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    passing a silly law like that is going to resort to more violence. Peroid! There is absolutely no reason to have a gun in an area where alcohol is served. Its just asking for trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan92631043 View Post
    there is absolutely no reason to have a gun in an area where alcohol is served.
    I beg to disagree. I look across the street at two bars, and see reasons on a regular basis. I've also had drunks try to pick a fight with friends, and ended up calling the cops. If one pulled a weapon, or was big enough to do me serious hurt and showed intent to do so, I would like to have the ability to defend myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan92631043 View Post
    passing a silly law like that is going to resort to more violence. Peroid! There is absolutely no reason to have a gun in an area where alcohol is served. Its just asking for trouble.


    Why stop at guns then? No having cars where alcohol is served! Too many DUI's! And let's serve drinks in paper cups, becuase people could use the glasses and bottles as weapons. No utensils either since a fork and knife are deadly. In fact, no credit or debit cards as they can be used as weapons too, just cash.

    For the most part, the guys that went through the trouble to get their CCW permits are not the ones who are going to shooting up the place. It's the assholes that don't bother to get the permits that carry whether legal or not, that you have to worry about.

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    Ohio now has a Bill in Committee to revise the CCW legislation - House Bill 203 - which will allow CC in restaurants that serve alcohol. I'm keeping a close eye on it but I'm sure it will get passed.

    See thread Conceal Carry in restaurants Write your Senators

    You guys in NC are getting to be about the only ones left without it. Better get busy writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDog View Post
    You guys in NC are getting to be about the only ones left without it. Better get busy writing.
    keeps getting shot down in committee...Deborah Ross (D-Wake) and Ronnie Sutton (D-Hoke and Robeson) are the 2 most directly responsible for killing 6 out of 8 pro gun bills this session. There is already a movement afoot to find candidates to run against them next election.
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    Being I live in a dry county in Ky I have not had a whole lot of info to draw on . I always knew that bars and package liquor stores were no no fly zones. Recently one county over in Pulaski Co Ky (Also dry) some of the cities have been using option elections to sell by the drink in certain restaurants and hotel dining rooms. Burnside Ky just south of Somerset passed it. Ky allows carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol but you can get your tit in a wringer as ol' Dad used to say if you are intoxicated and carrying in that restaurant. Being they lowered the level for DUI from .10 to .08 this poses a problem I would imagine for some. I'm only guessing but to be legally intoxicated I would imagine that it's the same for driving as it would be for any other situation that you are being charged with intoxication. I have not heard of any people getting arrested for possession of a firearm while intoxicated in one of these establishments but I do wonder if more are getting in trouble in other areas of the state or in any other states that allow carry in restaurants that serve. I've seen people arrested for carry while intoxicated but most of those were OC people and they were not coming from a restaurant. They most the time are coming back from a beer run

    I will be doing some research and will post what I find. At least around here the issue has not come up and in an area that posts both the court docket as well as the outcomes of those hearings in the local papers It shouldn't be all that hard to find.

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