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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Shooting that much factory ammo is pretty much out of the question for most people. I shot .45ACP back then, and reloaded on a Dillon press. It was pretty much essential. I was younger, though, and had less going on in my life.

    Nowadays, there are things I'd much rather do than sit in front of a reloading press for hours to prepare for a match I'd never win.
    That's all I'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt View Post
    Yeah Steve, reloads are cheaper but time is money too. How much time does it require to reload that much ammo? I'm asking because I really have no idea, but I'm guessing it's a lot. And it's not an occasional thing either. If you're shooting that many rounds regularly then it sounds like you're chained to the reloading bench for a good part of the time your are not actually in the act of firing your gun.
    How long does it take to reload 5K to 6K rounds?
    Like Mike, I was younger then. I didn't watch much TV.
    I did my reloading in the evening, at least a couple of hundred rounds a night. On a low-end Dillon press, that's less than two hours of work. While my daughter was growing up, she would come out to my workshop and help me, which also saved about a half-hour per session. It wasn't a burden.
    The most time-consuming part of reloading in bulk is cleaning the brass, but a relatively inexpensive machine does that while you're doing something else. My daughter loaded my primer tubes for me, and kept me supplied with bullets and cases. I pulled the handle and indexed the loader, and refilled the powder measure as needed.
    It was a good time to talk to my child about her life, and to teach her things, and just to relate and build a decent rapport.
    And then there was 10 or 15 minutes of dry-fire practice, every night. My daughter ran the stopwatch for me, and offered criticisms—usually very perceptive ones, at that.

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    On a progressive press like the Dillon 550B (a very popular model) you can reload 500 rounds per hour. I just reloaded 500 rounds of .45ACP last night.....I was taking my time though and it took me 1:30.

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    Wow! Were do I start! Ok - On Steve's post - I agree, USPSA Shooting has gone away from Practical roots is started with. USPSA has evolved into more of a sport than a practical competition. There are many reasons for that but mostly money and expansion of the sport. I do not shoot the sport to improve my self defense capabilities but rather a love for the sport and shooting in general. Most USPSA shooters started or have competed in IDPA which is more practical in nature than USPSA today.

    However, USPSA provides a higher level of speed and thinking using guns that go fast and have a larger round count. This trains your brain to process information faster and the fact that the shooter has to figure out the best way or the quickest way to shoot a particular stage rather than have it dictated to him or her is better IMHO for real world scenarios. There will not be instructions when the bad guy attacks you - I promise

    On the Equipment issue raised. I love this one!!! Yes, we shoot race guns!! They are fun and are considered the top fuel dragster of guns! Racing a top fuel dragster is nothing like racing on the street either!! But they do it to show how fast you can really go if you modified what is out there!

    USPSA has many divisions and you do not need one of these pistols to compete. Dave S. the Glock sponsored shooter and world champ shoots a standard Glock right out of the box! He also competes in IDPA with it. He can shoot a full race gun one day and shoot his Glock the next. Single Stack division is for slightly modified 1911 guns and is the faster growing division in USPSA. So you can come to a USPSA match and compete with whatever you use for conceal carry or buy a gun special for the competition - Your choice!!

    On the cost of ammo - Here is how it breaks down for me.
    I am shooting 38 super comp - It roughly cost $250 per 1000 rounds of handloaded ammo. If you factor in that I pick up allot of brass and re-use it the cost goes down to $170 per 1000 rounds roughly. It is not as expensive to shoot as you might think - most USPSA shooters - reload!! Or have someone reload for them - I do not have the time so I have a pro-reloader load my ammo. Plus, I am terrible at reloading

    In summary - All handgun sports are fantastic whether it is USPSA, IDPA, ICORE or any other - it is shooting!!! Get your feet wet!!! Remember - there are many countries who cannot do what you have the right to do here in the USA!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGentry View Post
    ...Yes, we shoot race guns!! They are fun and are considered the top fuel dragster of guns! Racing a top fuel dragster is nothing like racing on the street either!! But they do it to show how fast you can really go if you modified what is out there!...
    We who once occasionally raced sports cars used to say, "Dragsters go fast, but they can't corner worth a damn'." Real-world roads have curves and corners.
    I understand the sporting-event side of shooting, but I (personally) am interested much more in real-world practice, than I am in sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I understand the sporting-event side of shooting, but I (personally) am interested much more in real-world practice, than I am in sport.
    I'm in the same boat at this point in my life. I'd just rather spend my time on other things. There's absolutely nothing wrong with competition - and I learned a lot about shooting from it - but like Steve, I'm really only interested in the defensive aspects of pistol shooting.

    I'd rather just go out to the desert and set up a couple of defensive scenarios with my buddies a few times a year than spend all the time and money for IDPA or IPSC. I'd rather spend the time and money on family and friends, traveling, good wine, etc.
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    Thats cool! You can just watch the videos!!

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    What? Watch videos? When I could be reloading more ammo, or even practicing?

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