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    Double posted, sorry.

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    I'm liking that Model 715 357 Magnum V8" barrel !

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    Colt Diamondback.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAWPAUL View Post
    I'm liking that Model 715 357 Magnum V8" barrel !
    That WD VH8 shoots with my Marlin lever 1894 at 50 yards, never tried it at 100 yards however. Maybe this spring.

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    Although the Dan Wesson .357 may be the best , with the Colt python in second , the S&W Pre model 27 is a very close third

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    Dan Wesson 5" Custom RZ10 Bobtail 10mm & 744 2.5" 44 magnum.


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    Well, if I may add my two cent's worth, I'm of the opinion that the S&W Model 586 is probably the best DA .357 Magnum to come out yet. It will handle my handloads that neither the Python nor the Model 27 will handle due to their rather short cylinders. Both of those revolvers let my bullets poke their noses out the front.

    In DA use, I prefer the S&W trigger over any Colt or Dan Weaaon. And, the case hardened action of my 586 has stayed the same over the years. Both my Python and other Colt DA revolvers have had wear on the trigger sear that altered SA trigger pull. I had to replace the trigger on my Python and New Service after about 6,000 rounds. Once the trigger gets this much wear, lock-up becomes iffy. My New Service got to the point I had to finish rotating the cylinder by hand to get it to lock.

    But for me, the finest smallbore revolver would be a Colt New Frontier in .357 Magnum.

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    P.S. The Python descended from the Colt Officers Model Match, another rather fne target revolver. Like this:



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    Having started out on S&W and Colt in the mid '60's and have owned shot all above mentioned I find the stronger built DW more accurate, better triggers out the box, a will shoot with no problem what would self destruct a S&W for sure. I load the 357 mostly at rifle spec's, and have the 8" scoped barrel assembly that I put on the gun on the right and shoot with my Marlin 94C and it has a 2-7x33 Redfield vs the M8 2X on the Dan. Oh, the gun on the left is a 22 LR that I do 1" to 1.5" group at 25 yards depending on weather, ammo, arthritis and eyes when at the range.



    My favorite set of S&W Auto's are the 2206 and 22A above the Ruger's, I still have 4.5" Ruger Standard I got in '59 and a twin in Mk-II that I bought to save wear and tear on the old gun. I guess the grandkids will get them all, if we stop the Progressives in grovernment.



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    But my favorite 22 auto plinker is my Colt 22 Auto aka Cadet.

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    [QUOTE=Waldo Pepper;257067]Having started out on S&W and Colt in the mid '60's and have owned shot all above mentioned I find the stronger built DW more accurate, better triggers out the box, a will shoot with no problem what would self destruct a S&W for sure.







    I'll disagree with you on that. The L-Framed S&W is as rugged as they come. I've never owned a Dan Wesson, but have shot many rounds with them by virtue of the fact that both of my sons-in-law have owned them.

    One unique problem we did encounter with the DW is having the barrel shroud freeze to the barrel, necessitating sawing off both shroud and barrel. But both of them did have more barrels to crack than I did with my S&W. Any gun is going to have problems in time, especially the magnums. But I don't buy the statement that one is so much more ruggedly built than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Wright View Post
    I'll disagree with you on that. The L-Framed S&W is as rugged as they come. I've never owned a Dan Wesson, but have shot many rounds with them by virtue of the fact that both of my sons-in-law have owned them.

    One unique problem we did encounter with the DW is having the barrel shroud freeze to the barrel, necessitating sawing off both shroud and barrel. But both of them did have more barrels to crack than I did with my S&W. Any gun is going to have problems in time, especially the magnums. But I don't buy the statement that one is so much more ruggedly built than the other.

    Bob Wright
    These two statemates we often see from newbee's, amature's or people that don't know about proper care of guns on the DW forum. Failure to proper lube the threads, cross threading, or over torque on barrel nut is only cause of barrel nut to "freeze" in place.

    As for the "great L frame" it actually measures out smaller in all area's then the DW which uses same steel as S&W. This was all hashed over the measured when some guys on the S&W forum got in tussel over who had stronger gun, the Ruger or Smith and then they were put down by a guy from DW forum (I was a member there also) was a machinest and owned all guns in question and listed the measurements for L & N frame, the M-15 and M-44 DW, along with the Rugers and the small frame (357) DW had beat out N-frame exept for barrel thickness and width of top strap. The DW 357 cylinder had more metal (thicker cylinder walls) then the S&W 29/629, there has never be a documated case of a cylinder or top strap blown out, S&W and Ruger can't make that claim. I shoot heavier (300 gr very hot SD loads) then I would ever attempted in my 3" 629 that I recently sold. Notice the size of the DW 744 (44 mag) next to full sized 5" 1911 RZ10, the 744 carry load is a 300gr JHP running about 1600fps. The recoil kick ain't bad, but muzzle blast from that 2.5" barrel is kind of heavy. The 744 is by bedroom gun by the way, used to be my car gun but I decided the Colt DE was a better choice just in case a grandson found it between the grip safety and thumb safety.


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