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      Big Bro and CCW

      Am I the only one here who will not get a CCW permit due to the blatent "big brother" shadow it casts?

      Something about my prints being on file just because I want to protect myself... *shudders* just isn't right.

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      I thought about that when I was going for my CCW license and came to the conclusion that I have nothing to worry about as long as I continue being a law abiding citizen.

      Look at it this way, if they didn't take prints there would be a lot more scumbags carrying weapons.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DjSaneR View Post
      Look at it this way, if they didn't take prints there would be a lot more scumbags carrying weapons.
      I can certainly agree with that. I'm not blind to the advantages, but it still scares me.

      I just can't help but feel like the government is gaining more and more power, too much if you ask me. I don't want to be a part of that.

      I will probably end up submitting and getting a CCW license, but I just don't like it.

      I'm sure they have my prints of file somehow anyway.

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      I agree with both sides. I carried for many years without a CCW because I did not want the Gov. telling me when and where I could protect myself. I did not carry all the time but there were times I felt my life was worth the risk I was taking carrying without a permit. After my son came along I decided going to jail for carrying wasn't good either so I got my CCW a few years ago.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Maximo View Post
      I carried for many years without a CCW...
      Oh, I won't carry without a CCW... My life isn't in that much danger. I actually doubt I need a CCW at all.

      I'd only get a CCW for the "just in case" aspect.

      I wouldn't break the law just to "carry"

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      The prints don't bother me that much. Really, if someone in the gov't wants to know about me, the lack of prints on file won't deter them I'd imagine.

      As fingerprinting (or registering firearms at all) relates to keeping them out of the hands of criminals, I think it's a marginal argument. It certainly keeps handguns out of the hands of a few simpletons, but I don't imagine that most homicides are committed with registered arms.

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      Quote Originally Posted by PenguinRunway View Post
      I just can't help but feel like the government is gaining more and more power, too much if you ask me.
      Yep.. That's what made me think, too. At the end, I figured that the government can get whatever they want from me without my prints, anyway.
      Last edited by DjSaneR; 04-03-2007 at 08:40 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MLB View Post
      The prints don't bother me that much. Really, if someone in the gov't wants to know about me, the lack of prints on file won't deter them I'd imagine..
      I concur.

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      Disneyworld even scanned my fingers for "terrorist protection" ... not sure if they actually took my prints or what... freaked me out though.

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      If ya ever bought a firearm and had a NICS check run they already know who you are, fingerprints or not!

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      Many states now require fingerprinting when you get (or renew) your driver's license. Hell, my job required that I get printed.

      It's no big deal. Chances are they already have your prints on file anyway.

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      Quote Originally Posted by OrangeSkies View Post
      Many states now require fingerprinting when you get (or renew) your driver's license. Hell, my job required that I get printed.

      It's no big deal. Chances are they already have your prints on file anyway.
      I figure if you have received or renewed a drivers license since 9/11, been in the military, applied for a passport or had a job that requires any kind of security check, your fingerprints are already on file. Of course, if the polce have ever taken you into custody - whether you were actually charger or convicted - your prints are in the system. Most people born in the past 30-40 years (if it was in a hospital anyway) probably have their prints on file someplace as well.

      The government already knows who you are and where to look if it really wants you. Your name, picture and address are on file if you have a valid DL or state ID and if you file taxes, they also know where you work. Actually, they know more about you than you probably do..

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      Quote Originally Posted by PenguinRunway View Post
      My life isn't in that much danger. I actually doubt I need a CCW at all.

      I'd only get a CCW for the "just in case" aspect.
      How do you know your life isn't in danger?

      "Just in case of what?"

      Looks like you have a while to think about a permit.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 2400 View Post
      How do you know your life isn't in danger?
      Are you trying to make me paranoid? haha

      No, I'm just saying, I have never felt threatened in any way. The only reasons I'd want a CCW is:

      1) In the event I AM threatened.

      2) Ability to hide gun from others when transporting or camping.

      Guns aren't too too common in Florida... atleast not around here. It'd be nice to be able to just put it under my jacket in the event I need to take it somewhere.

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      That isn't much of a concern for me as I've been finger printed a bunch of times. I am really starting to think I am the only one who was ever finger printed in grade school. But we got finger printed back when I was in first grade and again in fourth grade. And I was finger printed so many times when working armored transport I still have ink on my fingers.

      Besides, if you remain a law abiding citizen, your finger prints on file may be helpful to you anyway.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post

      Besides, if you remain a law abiding citizen, your finger prints on file may be helpful to you anyway.
      +1


      Besides... ever take a close look at your birth certificate...? You're prints are already on file. Now, go out and get your CCW and protect yourself from that "just in case" moment.
      "bing bang boom! hair out...hamburger time" - William Murderface

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      Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
      +1


      Besides... ever take a close look at your birth certificate...? You're prints are already on file. Now, go out and get your CCW and protect yourself from that "just in case" moment.
      Ya I will...

      I just hate the system. I love america, don't get me wrong... but why must we take away our freedom and liberty so we can force our freedom on others.

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      Quote Originally Posted by PenguinRunway View Post
      Ya I will...

      I just hate the system. I love america, don't get me wrong...but why must we take away our freedom and liberty so we can force our freedom
      on others.
      HUH????????????

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      Alot of our freedom is taken away due to terrorist attacks and such (and idiots right here in the us). Well, it's being blamed on that anyways.

      If America wasn't so pushy... but at the same time, they are loosely connected and I'm somewhat proud to be part of a country that does what is right. I don't know, I try to stay out of politics, I'm just now getting into them. Pardon my half baked notions.

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      Quote Originally Posted by PenguinRunway View Post
      Pardon my half baked notions.

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