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      Concealed Carry across state lines ??

      I have a Maine Concealed Carry Permit, and will soon be taking the Utah course to be permitted in other states also.
      What is the proper procedure to carry across any state that doesn't acknowledge these permits ?? (like my next door neighbor N.H.)
      Trying to plan ahead and not stumble on any difficult times while traveling....

      Thanks for any helpful info thats available......

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      Quote Originally Posted by ybnorml View Post
      I have a Maine Concealed Carry Permit, and will soon be taking the Utah course to be permitted in other states also.
      What is the proper procedure to carry across any state that doesn't acknowledge these permits ?? (like my next door neighbor N.H.)
      Trying to plan ahead and not stumble on any difficult times while traveling....

      Thanks for any helpful info thats available......

      Terry
      RI doesn't recognise any other state's CCW permits. None. Even a loaded mag is counted as a "loaded gun" here, and having a weapon in the car unless you are going from home to work (if you're allowed to carry there) or from home to the range or back then you may not have a weapon in the car.

      Kinda restrictive, but there it is. Since I only shoot at a range, it's not a problem unless the wife says "Can you pick me up something on the way home?" Legally, no. Weapon in the car even if locked is a big No-no.

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      Sounds like RI is one of the places I'll never visit. How in the world can they enact such laws and not infringe on the right to keep and bear arms ? It's beyond the comprehension of this old country boy.

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      You get used to it, and having grown up in the even-more-restrictive UK it feels quite permissive here.

      In other words, it works for me, but it isn't for everyone.
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      According to the "Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986":
      One of the law's provisions was that persons traveling from one place to another cannot be incarcerated for a firearms offense in a state that has strict gun control laws if the traveler is just passing through (short stops for food and gas), provided that the firearms and ammunition are not immediately accessible, that the firearms are unloaded and, in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment, the firearms are located in a locked container.[11]

      Under this provision, someone driving from Virginia to a competition in Vermont with a locked hard case containing an unloaded handgun and a box of ammunition in the trunk could not be prosecuted in New Jersey or New York City for illegal possession of a handgun provided that the individual did not stop in New Jersey or New York for an extended period of time.

      See 18 USC § 926A http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926A
      You must also meet your home state's legal requirement for the possession of the firearm and also in your final destination.
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      Quote Originally Posted by desertman View Post
      According to the "Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986":

      You must also meet your home state's legal requirement for the possession of the firearm and also in your final destination.
      Thanks, d'man - that's good to know.

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      Did you know you can get a NH Non-Resident Permit for $100 good for 4 years. I got one just in case I travel north.

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      Disclaimer; It is up to you to verify any state law but this is a good starting point.

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      Thanks everyone....This gives me a starting point to build from

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      With all this talk about constitutional carry going on, I think a lot of new CCW people might be waiting out the decisions of their states. Personally in the current climate, I am still awaiting the decision in my state, though I don't hold out much hope, it's not like this is Vermont. I wish the entire country would just be done with the debate already. Having to take a test, and submit all your information and pay a damn fee is just a money grab as well as having your name on file should it be necessary when the crazy anti-gun Nazi's come knocking.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Philco View Post
      Sounds like RI is one of the places I'll never visit. How in the world can they enact such laws and not infringe on the right to keep and bear arms ? It's beyond the comprehension of this old country boy.
      what a shame. I've heard RI is a beautiful place, with all the multimillion dollar seacoast homes, huge boats and mega mansions. I wonder if Obama has his second home there, just planning for the future.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RK3369 View Post
      what a shame. I've heard RI is a beautiful place, with all the multimillion dollar seacoast homes, huge boats and mega mansions. I wonder if Obama has his second home there, just planning for the future.
      It is gorgeous. And if you enjoy shooting you can shoot pretty much anything here somewhere. But you are hard-pressed if you want to carry.

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      so, I guess if I ever get a boat large enough to cruise to Newport or somewhere else there, I won't be able to bring my guns? That's it. scratch that trip off my bucket list.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RK3369 View Post
      so, I guess if I ever get a boat large enough to cruise to Newport or somewhere else there, I won't be able to bring my guns? That's it. scratch that trip off my bucket list.
      Bill Ruger's boat Titania was reportedly VERY well armed when she was here in the early 90's - just not with anything in plain sight.

      Edit: unless all your guns are stainless, I'd leave then the hell off the boat anyway...

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      I live in SE NH. When I visit the Kittery Trading Post just across the boarder in ME I show the guy at the door that I'm carrying. The two states 'legally' don't recognize each other but the guy at the door doesn't give a **** about that.

      When I visit relatives in PA I carry. I'm a strong believer that it's better to be judged by 7 than carried by 6. So I carry on me or in my car where ever I go and just don't put a big sign on my car that says "GUN INSIDE" and I keep my mouth shut. Since I don't do drugs or smoke wacky tabacky or drive in a a manner to get stopped I don't worry too much. I've never seen a cop road block for weapons check either. Should I get stopped, there is no reason to suggest the LEO should search the car. Even so, I have permit from my home state and I don't look like I came from IRAQ. There's the laws and there's what gets enforced.

      As far as universal recognition goes: If you were a state that required a week of training before being qualified to carry how would you feel about accepting some guy from NH who just has to fill out a simple one page form and pay $10?

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      If you're interested, the SigSauer academy in Epping has classes at several different levels for gun owners, including tactical classes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Philco View Post
      Sounds like RI is one of the places I'll never visit. How in the world can they enact such laws and not infringe on the right to keep and bear arms ? It's beyond the comprehension of this old country boy.
      They can't enact such laws without infringing the right to keep and bear arms, and they don't care. I submit it is one of the least safe states in the union as the result. Interesting statistics from 2013:

      Alabama population: 4,833,722
      Murder rate: .0000719 (347 murders)
      Violent crime rate: .00418 (20,210 violent crimes)

      Rhode Island population: 1,530,000
      Murder rate: .0000215 (33 murders)
      Violent crime rate: .0113 (17,438 violent crimes)

      As you can see, not a staggering difference in murder rate, and RI actually has a higher violent crime rate than AL. When you consider the areas where the majority of violent crimes occur, the numbers are even more alarming. Alarming to the fact that where the populace is armed, crime rates are much lower than where the populace has been effectively disarmed. Why anyone thinks "gun control" works is beyond me. You'd think RIs crime rates would be drastically lower than say the redneck, gun-loving state of Alabama. Something to think about as you travel.
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      Quote Originally Posted by GCBHM View Post
      They can't enact such laws without infringing the right to keep and bear arms, and they don't care. I submit it is one of the least safe states in the union as the result. Interesting statistics from 2013:

      Alabama population: 4,833,722
      Murder rate: .0000719 (347 murders)
      Violent crime rate: .00418 (20,210 violent crimes)

      Rhode Island population: 1,530,000
      Murder rate: .0000215 (33 murders)
      Violent crime rate: .0113 (17,438 violent crimes)

      As you can see, not a staggering difference in murder rate, and RI actually has a higher violent crime rate than AL. When you consider the areas where the majority of violent crimes occurs, the numbers are even more alarming. Alarming to the fact that where the populace is armed, crime rates are much lower than where the populace has been effectively disarmed. Why anyone thinks "gun control" works is beyond me. You'd think RIs crime rates would be drastically lower than say the redneck, gun-loving state of Alabama. Something to think about as you travel.
      When you compare the percentage of each state that is "urban" as opposed to "rural", you see immediately where the issue is. Violent crime is far higher in urban areas, at least in this part of the country.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SailDesign View Post
      When you compare the percentage of each state that is "urban" as opposed to "rural", you see immediately where the issue is. Violent crime is far higher in urban areas, at least in this part of the country.
      You're exactly right, my friend. And in the urban areas, where the majority of the "poor" people live (b/c they are more dependent on the government, they can't afford to buy/own (ownership cost = practice, etc.) they are inherently more unsafe and discriminated against. I'm not talking only about blacks, either. There are people from all races and culture who fall into this category.

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