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Are there places you no longer patronize due to the establishment having an "No Handgun" posting on the front door? Not looking to bash any particular business just curious if other ccw owners feel as I do. I personally have stopped going to most places where the ownership has banned handguns on the premises.
Mexican Rest. in town...saw the sign when I was leaving and I won't go back....JJ
I feel the same way. I avoid places like that too. Every now and then my daughter gets me to go into a large chain Toy store that does not allow ccw's
here in oregon the sign doesnt NOT have the force of law, you must be TOLD by the owner/manager ...... when this happens i leave, i take my business elsewhere and then i send a letter to the owner/manager and include the reciepts for item i purchased at his competitor and the reason why. i also post it our local oc group so that others can do the same. taking your money elsewhere is the best policy BUT it changes nothing unless you SHOW that owner/manager what it COSTS him.
For me it depends on my desire for their services. There are places serve really excellent food and I do go there. I put my 642 in a COM safe in the trunk until I get back out. I live in Tennessee, Nashville area (Memphis isn't Tennessee, it is a third world country!), and so far I haven't really run into that problem. Most restaurants are not posted. I send wife into post office and I no longer visit schools (Kids are now in their 40's) I am also a Constitutionalist and believe in the whole Constitution , not just the Second Amendment. I respect the right of property as being an object of the Natural Law just as much as the right to self defense. I have never encountered a sign at a retail store in our area or Kentucky.
Trying to figure out if you are in Memphis, Nashville or KY. Just north of Nashville here in Portland TN. I too believe in the right of business owners to exclude firearms from their premises. The other side of that coin is my choice not to patronize them for that reason. Oh, yes I agree, Memphis is a 3rd world country as is many areas in Nashville now.Quote:
Originally Posted by wjh2657
Just as we have the right to carry a bussiness owner has the right to post. I don't have a problem with that.
I agree a business owner has the right to post and ask you not to carry on his property and I have the right to buy elsewhere.....JJ
For the most part. There have been a few times, over the years, that the place where I needed to go and get something was the only place around that had what I needed. Most of the time I pocket carry and have taken a risk and just went in anyway. I rarely do this if it is a store or something, but always disarm if I am going into some governmental building or something like that. Sucks, but I don't want to loose my CC permit either.:smt076
I live in upstate NY and have never seen ccw restricted other than schools or govt buildings .....
Yes, this definitely plays a role in whether or not I'll frequent an establishment. I'm pretty lucky here in Tennessee, there aren't many places you can't carry other than the obvious federal buildings, schools, etc, etc.
Ah, we have another poorly phrased question.
Yes, I prefer to patronize businesses which do not discriminate against law-abiding gun owners.
But when I truly need something that is available nowhere else, I will patronize "gun free" businesses without altering my, um, mode of dress in any way.
Concealed is concealed.
Lafayette, Macon County. Hi neighbor!Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond
Since I always carry (unless I am driving across state lines), ipso facto I don't go to such establishments. But since no one has ever notice I carry in the last 20 years I pretty much ignore that stuff. But if Starbucks put in metal detectors I'd have a real dilemma.
Some of the strip clubs on Long Island would wand the customers. But I'm too old for those places too.
I'm a hundred miles from any major cities, and have never seen legal signs prohibiting legal carry...except at gun shows. In Texas, if the sign does not meet the criteria required by state law, you can ignore it. Not surprisingly, the folks who usually want to ban legally carried guns in their establishments rarely do any research on the subject, so they don't know this.
I have, however seen some signs welcoming concealed handgun carriers. :smt1099
wouldnt THAT be refreshing and safe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bisley
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
I'll also admit that unlike obvious no, no's like state and federal buildings I frankly don't notice such postings unless very prominently displayed on said establishment. An arguement could be made that I should pay closer attention to such things but I just don't scrutinize every sticker on the front of every establishment.
Like Steve, I'm old and senile. They can't expect us to be able to shoot and also be able to read, can they?:mrgreen:
I did vote the latter of the choices, but as a few have mentioned before...sometimes you maybe dont see the sign...woops
On that note, I'd never push my luck with a federal building or school. They don't joke around with that type of thing and it is something that I do take very seriously. I wouldn't judge anyone, everybody has a responsibility to know the regulations. What you do with that knowledge is completely up to you.
:smt1099
CC is new in WI but I haven't seen many places that I normally go to posted, so hopefully it won't be an issue. But it a suitable alternative can be found without going too far out of my way, then I would go there instead.
well said, concealed is concealed ,who can guarantee my safety?? and deny me my constitutional rights to carry and protect my family from the scum that surrounds usQuote:
Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
A clarification (for New York, anyhow): You are forbidden to carry a weapon into an "accredited" school. Some schools are not accredited with the state and they are not covered by the prohibition.Quote:
Originally Posted by falchunt
That seems contradictory to the info posted at Handgunlaw.us regarding prohibited locations in NY:
He knowingly has in his possession a rifle, shotgun or firearm in or upon a building or grounds, used
for educational purposes, of any school, college or university, except the forestry lands, wherever
located, owned and maintained by the State University of New York college of environmental
science and forestry, without the written authorization of such educational institution; §265.01[3])
Emphasis mine.
I will see if I can document this. But for the real world your source is a solid suggestion. It would be hard to know before you walked in a school if it were accredited or not. So you would have to use the "any school..." doctrine to guide your actions. However, I believe my note was correct. I will see if I can find out for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by MLB
You are correct in that your quote is exactly as the statute is written. But there needs to be a legal definition of "school" or we would be excluded from karate schools, firearms training schools, music schools, etc. Clearly there must be a legal definition of "school". I was told that it had to be an accredited school (most day care and preschools are accredited, most karate schools are not).