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  • I go anyway and just leave my ccw elsewhere.

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    I ignore the signs. If I'm doing it right they will never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capgun View Post
    I ignore the signs. If I'm doing it right they will never know.
    Yeah until you forget and move wrong and print. it will take one person to complain and the manager or worker, heck even the person who seen it call the cops.

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    If you conceal your weapon properly, you will not "print" noticeably, and you won't be found out.
    Small amounts of print-through are, essentially, invisible. This is particularly true if you carry at "4:00" or (for lefties) "8:00," because your arm covers and obscures the area quite well.
    If your body structure permits it, "11:00" and "1:00" ("appendix carry") can also be almost completely invisible.

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    The poll actually needs another option. In Missouri it's not illegal to carry in businesses with "No Gun" signs posted. So, given the option, I prefer to patronize gun friendly businesses. But it I need to go somewhere and see a sign, I just ignore it and go on in. Unless it's one of those locations that are illegal by law, like schools, hospitals, etc.

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    POCKET CARRY!!! pant pocket, jacket pocket, shirt pocket, pick any pocket, who can see in your pocket? Trust me when your in the store and you put someone down that is going to kill the business owners family behind the cash register, I bet he/she forgets about the sign. We had that exact same thing happen here, and the owner refused to press any charges and the sign came down. Now no, I hope that rarely or never happens, and I try and be a good law abiding citizen. But, nowadays it can happen anywhere and if you think the bad guys can't read and don't pick places that have those signs then your living in a fantasy world. I don't want to be the one in the store that it happens and I reach in my waste band or under my arm and its empty because its in the Jeep. Thankfully I don't have to pick where I shop, I just go in do my business and leave. This is just me, I'm not saying how anyone else should or should not approach it, so I'm not saying anyone else is wrong or right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrwilson View Post
    POCKET CARRY!!! pant pocket, jacket pocket, shirt pocket, pick any pocket, who can see in your pocket? Trust me when your in the store and you put someone down that is going to kill the business owners family behind the cash register, I bet he/she forgets about the sign. We had that exact same thing happen here, and the owner refused to press any charges and the sign came down. Now no, I hope that rarely or never happens, and I try and be a good law abiding citizen. But, nowadays it can happen anywhere and if you think the bad guys can't read and don't pick places that have those signs then your living in a fantasy world. I don't want to be the one in the store that it happens and I reach in my waste band or under my arm and its empty because its in the Jeep. Thankfully I don't have to pick where I shop, I just go in do my business and leave. This is just me, I'm not saying how anyone else should or should not approach it, so I'm not saying anyone else is wrong or right.
    I have carried for 3 years now (642 in a pocket holster) and the only two people that know I carry are my wife and my seamstress ( she lengthens and reinforces my right pocket in all of my trousers and jeans). It isn't that much of an issue around here in rural TN as very few places are posted. Still I don't really get too worried about being "made" with my mode of carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrwilson View Post
    POCKET CARRY!!! pant pocket, jacket pocket, shirt pocket, pick any pocket, who can see in your pocket?...
    It's not merely a matter of who can see into your pocket.
    There's also the issue of what can fit into your pocket.
    Pocket-size pistols are only effective in the hands of someone who is already fairly expert at pistolcraft. People who have not already learned to shoot well with full-size pistols, and who are not willing to put in time doing continuing dry- and live-fire practice, will only cause disasters if they carry pocket pistols.

    Furthermore, people can "see" what's in your pocket!
    We were at a concert, last night, at our island's theater. We sat with another couple, old friends and the parents of a fine (classical) musician.
    Just joking around, the husband of this couple put his hand into my right-hand pants pocket, as if looking for money with which to make a contribution to the theater's operating fund.
    He was very surprised at what he found!

    He took it well, and he kept his mouth shut.

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    I agree with what your saying Steve about the pocket pistol experience, but what I wear, there is no way you can tell what is in my pocket. I did have almost the same thing happen to me but in my jacket pocket, but my friend was quiet about it too! But you can agree, there is never a "perfect" place for CCW every time and every place. Adaptability to your surroundings/wardrobe is key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Yes, I prefer to patronize businesses which do not discriminate against law-abiding gun owners.
    But when I truly need something that is available nowhere else, I will patronize "gun free" businesses without altering my, um, mode of dress in any way.
    Concealed is concealed.
    About the same here. "No guns" signs lack force of law in my state, so if necessary... This is of course leaving out places that are actually a problem: bars, schools, etc.

    KG

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    I carry anyway ..
    don't ask ..don't tell ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerfield View Post
    Just as we have the right to carry a bussiness owner has the right to post. I don't have a problem with that.
    I have to agree, although I try to avoid places with signs. The only place I have seen with a sign here in Colorado is Jared's (jewelry store). I have carried in there a couple times, forgetting that I was armed, but most of the time I will leave the firearm in the car. Although, I have a hard time going in there now unarmed, knowing that they were robbed at gun point a couple months ago.

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    How many people have made the sacrifice of their time and even their lives so we can live the freedoms our fore-fathers set forth . I find it the ultimate insult to ignor this , how dare they. So Wal-Mart doesn't
    grant me the sense or right , I don't shop at Wal-Mart. I feel Wal-Mart and all other conglamerates print
    tee-shirts with bulls-eye targets on one side and "kick me " on the other !

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    I didn't vote either way because sometimes you just don't have a choice.

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    I'll avoid them if I can. But I agree, sometimes there's no choice.

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    The Walmart by me has no signs posted anyplace, I have carried in there a few times, normally to buy ammo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamrith View Post
    The Walmart by me has no signs posted anyplace, I have carried in there a few times, normally to buy ammo..
    I have yet to see a Walmart that's posted anywhere in KY. I'm guessing dman ran into one with an uptight manager. It's certainly not a company wide policy.

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    I noticed a few years ago that a lot of places pulled their volunteer signage. Most around here are the regulated businesses that are required to disallow ccw. I could probably carry open and not catch too much static in the smaller towns around me.

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    Unfortunately most of my fav restaurants here serve alcohol and I can't legally OC or CC in them. Those that are carry legal that ask me to leave will get a "No guns=No money card".

    I think school = K-12 school in the statutes.

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