When hugging, hug low with you gun hand. The huggie will generally hug high when you hug low.

Originally Posted by Todd

IMO, one of the biggest "threats" of being made at church is the fact that people like to hug. I'd say practice hugging you wife so that you arms are on the bottom and you're covering your gun with your arm (assuming you carry around 3:00). This may also be a great place for off-body carry. Maybe in one of the big Bible briefcase/covers?

Originally Posted by Old Padawan

When hugging, hug low with you gun hand. The huggie will generally hug high when you hug low.

Sorry, just struck me funny.

Come on guys, this is a gun board!

Enough with the hugging already.

What's next, sunshine and lollipops?

Originally Posted by Old Padawan

When hugging, hug low with you gun hand. The huggie will generally hug high when you hug low.

So is that called a "TACTICAL HUG"?? and at what point do you throw the flash bang?

Zhur

Originally Posted by zhurdan

So is that called a "TACTICAL HUG"?? and at what point do you throw the flash bang?

Zhur

Thats funny!!!

Sad part is, its true. I had to learn that move quick so nobody would feel it on me. Flash bang... LOL

Originally Posted by James NM

Come on guys, this is a gun board!

Enough with the hugging already.

What's next, sunshine and lollipops?

Sunshine and lollipops!!! LOL

We are talking about carrying at church and hugging is one of the "dangers". It's critical that you learn Zhur's "tactical hug" to avoid being made! You don't want to be caught by one of the old ladies of the church!

When talking to my wife about concealed carry I mentioned church and Jeanne Assam, the concealed carrier who countered a gunman's attack in Denver last year. My wife, sarcastically said "is that who you want to be?" I replied with dead earnest - "Abso-friggin-lutely. I pray that if I am ever in such a situation God will give me the wherewithall to respond in kind".

I, too, feel vulnerable in church. Perhaps its because we all sit with our backs to the door or because of the presence evil in the world.

As for folks who have mentioned they havent been to church since they were children - try it again, you may find it a completely different place as an adult. I was a typical Prodigal Son who turned away as soon as I could because it all felt so phony, contrived and filled with hypocrisy. Since returning to church I have found a much different place - the Methodists have a slogan that says "Open hears, Open Minds, Open Doors" - that's a position I can support.

Originally Posted by Dynamik1

... Open Minds ..

There's the problem for most liberals.

Amen!!

Originally Posted by James NM

There's the problem for most liberals.

Not sure I follow James . . . you mean "close-minded" is actually BETTER?

Originally Posted by Dynamik1

I replied with dead earnest - "Abso-friggin-lutely. I pray that if I am ever in such a situation God will give me the wherewithall to respond in kind".

I pray that I'm NEVER in such a situation. One scary-scary time is enough for me.

Zhur

Originally Posted by Dynamik1

Not sure I follow James . . . you mean "close-minded" is actually BETTER?

Liberals seem to "think" so.......No, let me rephrase that........Liberals seem to "feel" so.

I am a church Board member and in charge of our church security. Our team includes several armed individuals. Our church pays for some of our training. We have a very securty minded Pastor, oh yeah were just outside Detroit too!

I carry in church. I can't imagine the feeling of dread I would have if the one time I needed it, I didn't have it because I thought I or my family was "safe" because of the fact we were in church.

Originally Posted by vernpriest

I am a church Board member and in charge of our church security. Our team includes several armed individuals. Our church pays for some of our training. We have a very securty minded Pastor, oh yeah were just outside Detroit too!

You and your team don't happen to moonlight at one of America's biggest Malls do you?


jk


Zhur

I carry everywhere that is legal...

I don't carry at church because I don't attend, so I voted no. I also don't carry most other times either though because my employer does not allow weapons on company property. So if I really wanted to carry on work days I would have to park off-site, and leave my gun in my car. Leaving a gun unattended in a car for 8+ hours seems like a bad idea to me. I also walk with a cane due to a motorcycle accident beginning of this year so parking off-site isn't all that appealing either. I have been tempted to see if there is any way I could get around this rule, but I have a feeling that since it is private property that there is nothing I can do about it without risking my job.

Originally Posted by Atroxus

I don't carry at church because I don't attend, so I voted no. I also don't carry most other times either though because my employer does not allow weapons on company property. So if I really wanted to carry on work days I would have to park off-site, and leave my gun in my car. Leaving a gun unattended in a car for 8+ hours seems like a bad idea to me. I also walk with a cane due to a motorcycle accident beginning of this year so parking off-site isn't all that appealing either. I have been tempted to see if there is any way I could get around this rule, but I have a feeling that since it is private property that there is nothing I can do about it without risking my job.

Check your state laws on that one. I know that in Kentucky, employers are prohibited from preventing an employee leaving their weapon in their car, although they can keep you from carrying.

KG

Even though I don't have my permit yet I voted yes because I have applied for the permit and plan to carry once I have it. Not sure what my church's position is but they don't post that there is no carry allowed so I guess I will be OK.

Yes I do. Matter of fact I just got in from the Wednesday night service. I and several of the guys (and a few of the ladies) that go there carry at church, and any place its legal. I can think of no scripture that would forbid it.

Originally Posted by zhurdan

So is that called a "TACTICAL HUG"?? and at what point do you throw the flash bang?

Zhur

Behold! A detailed article on carrying in church, and step by step instructions on the proper way to hug:
http://www.corneredcat.com/Social/church.aspx


No instructions for the flash, though...

KG

The media blows everything out of proportion, including crime, whether it's church-related or not.[/QUOTE]


so true!

I don't have my permit yet, but I doubt I will carry to church.

I voted yes although if memory serves I believe this is prohibited in some states ...

The first few months after obtaining our CCW's we did not carry into the church, but would leave our handguns in the car for after church shopping,lunch,etc. After the California incident my wife asked me how bad would I feel if something like that happened here, and my handgun was in the car. We live in a very small town, and go to an even smaller church, so the odds of that are extreme to say the least. However her point is valid so I now carry.

Interesting side note- after moving here we visited several of the local churches looking for our new church home. We pretty much fell in love with one and had decided to make it our new church. However after doing a little research I discovered that the national body of that church actively (financially) supports the anti firearm movement. Even though the local church did not agree with that position they do send money up to the national body, so we chose not to join that church.

This was a pretty popular " mainstream" denomination, so you might want to investigate where your churches money goes.