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    Bersa Owners still happy?

    I was watching my wife clean her Bersa Thunder .380 this weekend and I couldn't help but notice how much more wear her little gun has already than any other gun I've owned for a longer period of time.

    I'm not sure if the wear I'm seeing is just cosmetic, or if parts are actually wearing out.

    Are you owners of Bersas still happy with your guns?

    So you feel like your Bersa has held up well?

    Has anyone had one long enough to feel like thier gun has worn out and needs to be replaced?

    If you were to make the purchase again, would you stick with Bersa, or would you go with a more expensive .380?

    Acquiring minds want to know ...

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    Happy? Very. Great pistol for the money. In fact, I've yet to find a better centerfire pistol for under $250.

    Yes, seems to have held up quite well for the 350 rounds put through so far. Of course, this is just a drop in the bucket...

    Obviously nothing has needed to be replaced.

    No way would I go with a more expensive .380, and I used to have a Sig 230 a long time ago. That 230 was the most reliable automatic I've ever had (~1500 rounds at 100%), but I wouldn't buy a new one at twice the price of a T380. IOW, if I were going to spend that much money, it sure as heck wouldn't be on a .380 (unless it's a Seecamp).

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    Mine seems to have gotten better over time. I don't shoot mine a whole heck of a lot, though, so I'm probably not the best one to answer in this thread. But I know someone who has a few of these little guns in his collection from various periods of time and he has not had any problems with any of them. He swears by them.

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    1,500+ rounds and I'm still extremely satisfied. I'll admit that after the first few hundred rounds I had similar thoughts concerning the gun's wear, but it was all cosmetic and never got any worse.

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    Same here. Noticed some wear on the slide and frame after the first few hundred rounds, but that seems to have been normal break in and part mating. Since then the wear has stopped and the gun has been very reliable.

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    I've had my T380CC for about 9 months now and have fired roughly over 500 rounds through it and all of the wear points look to be normal except one. Thats the area under the slide that the trigger disconnect rides on during cycling and for some reason there are deep wear spots on the length of travel where this part seems to have dug into the slide. Two of them are next to each other just forward of the recess, and the other one is forward of those two at the end of travel where the disconnect rubs on the slide.

    I'd be interested to know if anyone else has noticed these wear points on their guns.

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    As long as this thread has been reopened, I've go a question.

    We did go ahead and buy my wife a Bersa, and she has loved it.

    However, she started having ejection failures and jams a while back. I never had the problem, so she figured it must be her.

    She finally got to the point she thought she had figured out what she was doing wrong, when at 1028 rounds one of the internal springs broke, and we had to mail it back to the factory.

    After a four week hiatus, the gun has finally returned. Last night she ran 49 rounds through it and had three jams.

    She has already been considering getting a 9mm, and she has never had a problem with my Ruger P89. In fact, the Ruger has NEVER had any problems, since I took it out of the box.

    I know the jam thing is probably her, but I also know there have to be other guns out there that aren't as sensitive to whatever she is doing.

    She thinks she wants an XD 9. She has shot it and can handle it, both compact and whatever the regular size is called.

    She's shot Shipwreck's Walther's but felt they were biting her hand somehow, and so doesn't want one.

    I've kinda been thinking along the lines of a Sig. I'd like to hear from Sig owners about reliablity. I'll be looking to find one she can shoot before we make that kind of investment, and before she buys the XD 9.

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    im still happy with it

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    About 500 rounds through mine. No problem. I guess it is just an infant, however. But, at the price I paid if it doesn't last 10 years (I bet it does) it
    is still a great value.

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    I've looked at a few and just always went another direction. I'm not sure why I just haven't got one. Is it true they own Llama now too? I have looked at a few of those and like the idea of 191 freamed in a lot of calibers but hear the parts are harder to find. Ifd I was to get a bersa tomorow and wanted a 9mm, 40, 45 ACP what models would be the ones to get?

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    Mine has been great. I don't shoot it that often, however.

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    Wandering Man, could your wife be limp-wristing the Bersa?? I've heard they're sensitive to that, but I've never experienced the problem mysef.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n View Post
    Wandering Man, could your wife be limp-wristing the Bersa?? I've heard they're sensitive to that, but I've never experienced the problem mysef.
    We've pretty much decided that was the problem. And I think she has the problem mostly licked.

    She also manages to stove-pipe her Glock 19 after three magazines or so. Her tiny wrists just wear out.

    Maybe I just need to make her go shooting more to strengthen up those arms and wrists.

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    i pretty much doubt i would buy anything under a 9mm. at least for a carry gun.

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    awesome!

    I have put about 300 rds through my .380 cc. I absolutely love it! Compared to the Ruger P345, it feels like a toy, but shoots like a dream. No doubt what my cc weapon will be for years to come!

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    My Bersa cost me $199 a couple of years back. It has never jammed for me, but it did for a guy I worked with. I think he was limp wristing. I keep it loaded with Corbon DPX. That's probably the most effective ammuntion available in that caliber currrently. I can't say I carry it much at all, but if I had to go downtown and leave my gun locked in the glovebox the $199 Bersa would be just the ticket.

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    I have the Bersa DLX model and I haven't had one problem with it at all. It has performed flawlessly out of the box. I would purchase another one if I wanted one. I tell people about my Bersa when they ask. I had a set of custom grips made for it. The grips are made out of Zebra wood. Those black grips that comes on them are just ugly. I had a holster made from K&D holsters for it. Kevin does a nice job. I carry my Bersa about 30% of the time. I carry about 95 % of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaredog View Post
    I have the Bersa DLX model and I haven't had one problem with it at all. It has performed flawlessly out of the box. I would purchase another one if I wanted one. I tell people about my Bersa when they ask. I had a set of custom grips made for it. The grips are made out of Zebra wood. Those black grips that comes on them are just ugly. I had a holster made from K&D holsters for it. Kevin does a nice job. I carry my Bersa about 30% of the time. I carry about 95 % of the time.
    Got some pictures? I'm interested in seeing those grips.

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    Yep, I'm still happy with my T380, HiCap 9, and 45UC; grest pistols for the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsJohnson View Post
    I've looked at a few and just always went another direction. I'm not sure why I just haven't got one. Is it true they own Llama now too? I have looked at a few of those and like the idea of 191 freamed in a lot of calibers but hear the parts are harder to find. Ifd I was to get a bersa tomorow and wanted a 9mm, 40, 45 ACP what models would be the ones to get?
    Bersa never has had any direct connection with Llama and still doesn't. Llama was located in Spain while Bersa is in Argentina. Llama went out of business around 2 years ago and hasn't built any guns since. Bersa is still going strong and supplies pistols to the Argentine military and police as well as exporting them.

    The only "connection" the two companies had was a company called Eagle Imports. EI is the US importer of Bersa and also owns a company called Firestorm. Firestorm is a gun "company" in name only and doesn't actually build any guns of it's own. Instead, they have several suppliers that build their pistols (and a revolver) under the Firestorm logo. Bersa is one of those companies and Llama was as well until it closed shop. Llama supplied all of the Firestom SA pistols (based on the 1911 design) while Bersa builds all of Firestorm's DA/SA pistols using Walther designs. FWIW, Firestorm will soon be introducing a new 1911 type pistol that is mil-spec - unlike the Llama built guns - that will be built in the Philippines.

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