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    I have a 380 duo that has been nothing but reliable. Cost me all of $219 NIB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering Man View Post
    I was watching my wife clean her Bersa Thunder .380 this weekend and I couldn't help but notice how much more wear
    her little gun has already than any other gun I've owned for a longer period of time.

    I'm not sure if the wear I'm seeing is just cosmetic, or if parts are actually wearing out.

    Are you owners of Bersas still happy with your guns?

    So you feel like your Bersa has held up well?

    Has anyone had one long enough to feel like their gun has worn out and needs to be replaced?

    If you were to make the purchase again, would you stick with Bersa, or would you go with a more expensive .380?

    Acquiring minds want to know ...

    Thanks,

    WM
    Keep in mind that Bersa has a first rate (lifetime) warranty to original owners.
    If your wife was the first owner of the gun you can sent it to Colorado Gun works and have any worn or damaged parts fixed or replaced.

    http://www.coloradogunworks.com/ is a certified warranty shop for Bersa and Firestorm firearms (Bersa does not and has never manufactured
    the Firestorm 1911 models so Bersa does not cover them, but CGW might do warranty work for them as well.)

    2631 West Vine Drive
    Ft. Collins CO 80521

    970-482-4867

    For WARRANTY SERVICE, please send Pistol directly to any of the following gunsmiths:

    Reynerson's, 10044 Hooper Road, Baton Rouge, LA 70818
    Phone: 225-261-4860

    Colorado Gunworks, 2631 W. Vine Drive, Ft. Collins, CO 80521
    Phone: 970-482-4867

    Ahlman's, 9525 W. 23th Street, Morristown, MN 55052
    Phone: 507-685-4243 or 507-685-4244

    Danforth Gunsmithing, 7101 Jurupa Avenue #34, Riverside, CA 92504
    Phone: 951-343-7765
    Fax: 951-343-1621
    Website: www.danforthgunsmithing.com

    John's Guns, Etc., 156 CR 305, Lott, TX 76656
    Phone: 254-749-7940
    Fax: 254-224-8246
    Website: www.johnsgunsetc.com

    T & A Gunsmithing, RR#1, BOX 1650, Route 314, Henryville, PA 18332
    Phone: 570-629-3981
    Fax: 570-629-9385

    Gander Mountain
    Store Locator: Click here to find a store near you.http://gander.distanthorizon.com/storelocator/

    BERSA LIFETIME SERVICE CONTRACT

    Upon the expiration of the one-year Warranty, and for as long as this BERSA firearm is owned by the original purchaser, BERSA S.A.
    offers to service and repair any defects or malfunction in this BERSA firearm excluding the finish, grips, sights or magazine, without charge.
    Requests for service should be submitted in writing together with proof of purchase and the firearm (insurance and shipment prepaid by the purchaser)
    to an authorized service center identified on the enclosed list. Return shipment and insurance shall be paid by BERSA provided the service
    is covered by this service contract.

    This service contract is only extended to the original purchaser and shall be waived if the defect or malfunction was caused by neglect, abuse,
    careless handling, unauthorized ammunition, ordinary wear and tear, unreasonable use or failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance
    as set forth in the instruction manual.

    Please complete and return the enclosed original purchaser registration card, found in you firearm's box, to assist us in providing this service to you.
    If you require assistance in connection with this service contract, please contact:

    Eagle Imports, Inc.
    1750 Brielle Ave., Unit B-1
    Wanamassa, NJ 07712
    732-493-0302

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    Freedom1911 has told you the correct skinny. I use CGW in Colo. for any repair to my Bersa's. Remember a blow back gun cannot be limp wristed. Some of the problems they had are easy fix by the smith at CGW. I have 4-5 hundred rounds through my TH 380 and it is as good or better than when new. They are a great gun for a great price. There are some nice wood grips for them from Marshalls grips.




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    Possible limp wristing fix

    Get a 12-15 inch piece of broom handle, tie some clothes rope to it in the center about 25-30 inches long and put a small weight on the end of the rope. Then using your hands facing down towards the floor, roll the rope onto the broom stick alternating one hand then the other until the rope is all the way rolled up and then reverse the action letting the rope un-roll. This exercise will strengthen the wrists which will help in the elimination of limp wristing a handgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsJohnson View Post
    I've looked at a few and just always went another direction. I'm not sure why I just haven't got one. Is it true they own Llama now too? I have looked at a few of those and like the idea of 191 freamed in a lot of calibers but hear the parts are harder to find. Ifd I was to get a bersa tomorow and wanted a 9mm, 40, 45 ACP what models would be the ones to get?

    Have not heard about that.
    I have found this http://www.bersa-llama.com/ at several searches, but it seems to be a dead url.
    Asking about this at www.bersatalk.com would probably get a definite answer.
    MichaelT at the BT sight is in contact with Bersa all the time and if any one can give a yes or no answer to this it would be him.

    Checked at the Bersa Talk forum and this is what they said about Bersa Buying Llama.

    No, Bersa didn't buy Llama. If you google Llama, or check wikipedia, they'll give you a complete history of Llama, and Bersa is never mentioned, nor is Argentina.

    Firestorm is an American brand name, and the owner contracted with Llama to make imitation 1911 pistols under the Firestorm brand name, to be imported into the U.S. They also contracted with Bersa to make .22lr, .380acp, 9mm, .40s&w, and .45acp pistols under the Firestorm brand name. The only relationship that Bersa has with Llama is that they did business with the same American importer, RSA Enterprises.

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    Thumbs up

    Still happy with my T9 HC Pro - 575 shots, 1 FTE and less than 10 failure to lock open after the last round in the mag that I all blame the ammo for.
    My grouping is getting tighter too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering Man View Post
    I was watching my wife clean her Bersa Thunder .380 this weekend and I couldn't help but notice how much more wear her little gun has already than any other gun I've owned for a longer period of time.

    I'm not sure if the wear I'm seeing is just cosmetic, or if parts are actually wearing out.

    Are you owners of Bersas still happy with your guns?

    So you feel like your Bersa has held up well?

    Has anyone had one long enough to feel like thier gun has worn out and needs to be replaced?

    If you were to make the purchase again, would you stick with Bersa, or would you go with a more expensive .380?

    Acquiring minds want to know ...

    Thanks,

    WM

    I would guess the wear you are seeing to be cosmetic.. The Bersas tend to hold up really well. There is always the exception but I know of a couple of ranges that use them on the rental line and have upwards of 40,000 rounds through them, and you know a range gun does not get the TLC that ours do. I have a UC45 with over 2200 flawless rounds, and a couple different models of 380, one is my wifes and it has 1500 through it and my CC model has only a couple hundred.. Very happy and will add more of them to the collection

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    We have 2 Bersa Thunders. With around 2 thousand rounds thru each without a problem, We are very happy with them. Both my wife and I use them for CCW.

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    I have a UC9 and a Firestorm 22 and both have been pretty much perfect. Literally no problems with the FS and one stovepipe FTE on the Thunder 9 on the very first magazine, limpwristed it...

    a few thousand rounds through both now, and I've pulled them down and cleaned them several times each with no visible improper wear... the FS22 is exactly like the 380, all steel, pretty much no recoil, and the Thunder UC9 for me is better than my wife's Glock, heavier with less recoil... I much prefer a hammer gun with a flip safety... I can put one in the chamber, put the safety on and holster it.. with safety on, the trigger's disconnected, unlike a Glock .. and if I actually pull the UC9 for social work, I just flip down the safety with the thumb and pull DA for the first round.

    Seriously, no problems, no disorder of any kind with the UC9 or the FS22 after thousands of rounds in each, and I expect when I go to .45 it will be another Bersa.

    I'm also lefty, and not many guns have controls on the right side.. FNP makes a .45 that way, but I might have to stay with Bersa..

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    Wink Love my Bersa

    Have had my Bersa Thunder now for about 3 months and love the way it handles. I'm still a little slow in reloading but figure I'll get better with more practice. At the shooting range I am pleased with my target practice and feel that the Bersa is easy to aim and shoot. Just wish I could reload faster - it's still a bit stiff.

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    I still like the two I own, a .380 and the Firestorm .45. My wife likes the .380 but she has a problem disengaging the the safety. She has arthritis in her thumb and the safety is stiff and quite a pain literally for her to operate. Any suggestions to help her to be able to use this pistol as her CCW will be appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken2925 View Post
    I still like the two I own, a .380 and the Firestorm .45. My wife likes the .380 but she has a problem disengaging the the safety. She has arthritis in her thumb and the safety is stiff and quite a pain literally for her to operate. Any suggestions to help her to be able to use this pistol as her CCW will be appreciated!
    Manually drop the hammer, or before placing it in the holster or bag use both hands to engage the safety(which drops the hammer) then disengage the safety. You now have a perfectly "safe" CCW. The double action on the first trigger pull will be in safe carry mode and if she has to use it to defend herself she wont be fumbling with the safety.

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    Thanks gilly! I have tried to figure out a way for her to be safe and still carry the pistol which she shoots the best and is most comfortable with. I appreciate your help and Thanks, Ken.

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    I bought my first Bersa 380 sometime back in 1998-1999 and have used it on a regular basis. Couldn't even guess at the round count. Not a single issue with it. I think I paid somewhere around $130 for it - best $130 I've ever spent!

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    Looks wise my finish on mine has worn quite a bit in the 2100 rounds ive shot it, But also remember that it is in a holster all day for well over a year. Function wise it has only gotten better with age. My trigger is as crisp as a DA/SA can get...

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    I have the Bersa DLX model and I haven't had one problem with it at all. It has performed flawlessly out of the box. I would purchase another one if I wanted one. I tell people about my Bersa when they ask. I had a set of custom grips made for it. The grips are made out of Zebra wood. Those black grips that comes on them are just ugly. I had a holster made from K&D holsters for it. Kevin does a nice job. I carry my Bersa about 30% of the time. I carry about 95 % of the time.


    Well!!!!!!!!!!!! we waiting for the other shoe to drop.OK I'll bite.Witch gun you carry most of the time?

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    Very Happy With Bersas

    There are 3 of them in my house. I carry a UC45 pretty regularly and a 380CC form time to time. My wife carries a Standard Thunder 380. They all perform very well. the finish may not be Dan Wesson quality but pretty good in my opinion. Great firearms, especially for the price point.

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    Bersa

    I have a 'pimp-daddy' .380 black with gold levers, geat for SOB, accurate and easy to shoot. Traded a Thunder Pro .45 for a Ruger P345 that feels more gentle. You have to keep the magazines clean on the .45, otherwise no problems at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering Man View Post
    I was watching my wife clean her Bersa Thunder .380 this weekend and I couldn't help but notice how much more wear her little gun has already than any other gun I've owned for a longer period of time.

    I'm not sure if the wear I'm seeing is just cosmetic, or if parts are actually wearing out.

    Are you owners of Bersas still happy with your guns?



    WM
    I've owned several. Still have a Bersa Thunder 9mm Ultra Compact. GREAT gun. Very satisfied after 500 or so rounds...not a SINGLE misfire from day one.
    My wife now has a .380 Thunder with CT's...she is very happy with it (except the cost of the .380 ammo) and it shoots very well, is comfortable and has never had a jam.

    I have several "more brand name" 9's, like a Beretta Px4 Storm compact...it is absolutely a great gun, I love shooting it and never had a jam.
    As for your question, would you not get Bersa and get a more expensive gun if you had it to do over...absolutely NOT.
    I think Bersa is obviously a value priced gun but yet the quality in all I have seen, shot and owned is way past that price. I do think if I were intending to shoot massive rounds, it would be logical to consider normal wear and I might opt for a more expensive weapon.

    Bersa also has GREAT customer service in the several contacts I have had with them. They have web pages, focus/forum groups...what's not to like.??


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    As in my earlier post,I am happy with my choosing of the Bersa Thunder .380.
    The only reason I may put it up for sale,is because it is "out dated."
    It shoots fine,don't get me wrong,but it is a little too big for the round,(.380)
    it shoots.I have since purchased the much smaller Ruger LCP.Plenty of rounds
    capacity,acuracy,and higher quality pistol over the Bersa.

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