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    He is also probably not as BIG a gun dude as he pretends to be. Bersas are nice, cheap guns. I didn't even know Argentina had a military..............so all 6 guys use Bersas, thats cool. (befrore you get nutz it was a joke)

    Bersa owners are like miata owners........They justify their products shortcomings by talking about the fact that they do go vroom when you step on the gas and man are they less money so you can put up with a rattle or rust spot or two. They look like the more expensive cars, until you look close. Bersas are a very good weapon for the money it takes to own one.

    I used to own a Bersa I do not anymore. It was a good starter gun, I am seriously thinking about getting another one soon, for my daughter to carry. It is a great gun for her, I will not buy a Kel Tec.

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    I think Ill get a Bersa, if I can find one easily. I buy this gun and all the break in rounds needed for the same price as the XD M that I want

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    Hold it and make sure it feels good first, then buy it because its cheap and has a good feel to it. Don't buy it because its cheap and then hold it and try to like it because you got some free bullets with it instead of the gun you want.

    If you hold it and it feels good, very cool. Then you got a reliable weapon for very little scratch.

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    Local gun store just got in a Bersa Thunder 9 Pro HC. I handled it and it felt really good in hand. It is the first Bersa 9mm that I've seen in person, he usually keeps a few .380s in stock. Seems like a lot of gun for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanmachine1961 View Post
    Local gun store just got in a Bersa Thunder 9 Pro HC. I handled it and it felt really good in hand. It is the first Bersa 9mm that I've seen in person, he usually keeps a few .380s in stock. Seems like a lot of gun for the money.
    The BersaHC9Pro is a fine gun. I have one and can speak from experience that the quality and dependability of the Bersa I own is every bit as good as the Glock, XD, XDm, HS2000, Springfield 1911, Walther P99 that I own.
    I am sure to get more guns and I am sure that my Bersa will continue to be a excellent pistol, with quality and performance equal to these new purchases.

    I took my BHC9Pro to the range the same day I took my new G17 and New to me HS2000 and it was as accurate right out of the box as the New G17 and the HS that I had purchased from a guy in Arkansas.
    If you buy one of these guns you will not be disappointed. This is my third Bersa, each one has been a step up in caliber or frame size. I have never been disappointed in my purchases. Neither will you.

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    Well I purchased the Bersa HC9Pro this afternoon, I just couldn't resist it! Intended my next purchase to be a .45 or .40 since I already have a couple of 9mm but this gun was just calling out to me. Buy me! Buy me! So I did.

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    Congratulations MM1961. I'm sure you'll like it. Here is the text of a range report I did on my Bersa Thunder 9 on another forum last month, at which time it had surpassed 550 rounds without a failure and has now passed the 600 round mark. Here's what I said on the other forum:

    "I made it up to the range today for some more "therapy" to my recently surgicalized shooting arm and continued shooting the Bersa Thunder 9. I'd say 95% of the rounds fired were fired in defensive exercises.

    The pistol has now passed the 550 round mark without a failure of any kind, and that is with four brands of 115 gr FMJ and three brands of 115 and 124 grain JHP, one being +P and the other two being no slouches in the pressure department. I've double tapped, triple tapped, mag dumped, stagger loaded, didn't clean it for the first 300 rounds, and did everything else I can think of to make an auto pistol fail and it has refused to do so. I rapid fired a ten round aimed string of Gold Dot 124 +P's at a 6 inch bullseye target at 15 yards from the bench and they all went into about a three inch group.

    So I'm hangin' in there with my earlier assessment that the Bersa Thunder 9 is not only a very good service pistol, it's probably the best "sleeper" to hit the market since the FEG PJK 9HP's twenty years ago. The Thunder 9 sells for $339 delivered to your FFL dealer from:
    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/15060

    Here's the pistol I'm referring to;


    Best wishes"

    And here is a quick photo of some accuracy testing I did with it earlier this year.



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    Appreciate the info JayPee. Was hoping to put a few rounds thru it today but it is pouring down rain here. Maybe by the weekend.

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    If your pistol is like mine was right out of the box. You will be extremely happy with it.

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    Here are some other reviews of the T9 I've done in the last year in case you're interested...about five of them.

    http://www.handgunforum.net/showthre...825#post196825

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    Quote Originally Posted by recoilguy View Post
    He is also probably not as BIG a gun dude as he pretends to be. Bersas are nice, cheap guns. I didn't even know Argentina had a military..............so all 6 guys use Bersas, thats cool. (befrore you get nutz it was a joke)

    Bersa owners are like miata owners........They justify their products shortcomings by talking about the fact that they do go vroom when you step on the gas and man are they less money so you can put up with a rattle or rust spot or two. They look like the more expensive cars, until you look close. Bersas are a very good weapon for the money it takes to own one.

    I used to own a Bersa I do not anymore. It was a good starter gun, I am seriously thinking about getting another one soon, for my daughter to carry. It is a great gun for her, I will not buy a Kel Tec.

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    Please read.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bersa

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    That said exactly what I said.
    Thanks for verifying my opinion.
    It was indeed longer and had a bit more detail. Itwasn't much of a read however.

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    Maybe not. But it is a verifiable source of information concerning the history and departmental uses of the Bersa brand.

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    Good point no sense taking the word of a long time gun owner. With experiance owning many brands to compare. One who knows a lot of other shooters who shoots weekly,shooting many weapons.......its best to get your info from wikipedia. Thank you for setting the record straight.

    Bersa what a good weapon for the little bit of money it takes to own one. Worth every penny!

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    Must be jealous...BERSA is a great value by any standards.

    I had to write the distributor in NJ and they were WONDERFUL and responsive...they actually did CUSTOMER SERVICE...as shocking as that might seem in today's world.

    The only bad news with BERSA is that more folks are finding out about them and they are harder to find. We want to share good news like this!


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    Quote Originally Posted by cupsz71 View Post
    My observartions:

    PROS:
    1. cost $$$$$
    2. good CCW size
    3. safety features
    4. Very accutate at 8-10 yrds

    CONS:
    1. Caliber size in .380 (for me)
    2. Hard on the hands after 60+ rounds ...
    3. Field stripping is a challenge
    oh......not a con of the actual gun......extra mags are HARD to find....


    1. cost $$$$$ When you buy a handgun based on $$$...your just asking for problems
    2. Hard on the hands after 60+ rounds .. That would be enough to cool me from buying
    3. Field stripping is a challenge...That would be enough to cool me from buying

    .extra mags are HARD to find....That would be another BIG negative for me

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    New here but I don't understand why field stripping would be a challenge. I have a nickle uc 45 and its easier than most of my autos but you do have be careful with what you clean the nickle finish with,

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    BTHC9mm is the easiest gun I have ever seen to field strip.
    Drop the mag, flip the switch, slide goes off the front.
    Could probably do it all with one hand and in a couple seconds with a little practice.

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    Handguns magazine promises an upcoming article that will include Bersa. Look for it.

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    Check out a LOT of info at BERSA.com. They have a nice web site, good user Forums and such support speaks well for the product. If you want to know a lot about a firearm, ask the people who own and use them. Not that having a spiffy site makes a weapon any better, but it does speak to their success when you see their info and support. Some folks don't speak well of Bersa because they come in a BOX, not in a case. Obviously superficial and to help hold down costs.

    Several indoor ranges I know/frequent sell and rent Bersa regularly. They always talk about the reliability. I have shot many of them without any issues. My wife has a 380 Thunder with Crimson Trace lasers and it is a winner. It is dead on accurate and again, never an issue. I have a Bersa ultra compact pro 9mm in duotone finish. Great weapon and after MANY rounds, no issues. I do keep it super clean, as we all do (?).
    I have a Beretta Storm PX4 9mm sub compact and it is advertised as one of the most accurate guns in the business. It is a GREAT gun for sure but I am not so sure which I would pick if I had to go with Bersa or Beretta. Beretta has been around a LONG time and proven their worth over the years.

    I believe the Bersa is one of the greatest values in handguns. Like everything else, it is only what YOU think that should count. If it feels good and you are comfortable when you shoot it, what else matters?
    Whether it is guns or guitars, one guy likes Esteban guitars (while most "Experts" would say they are junque), and another swears by Martin or Gibson, the old line forever companies. Individual choice and as long as you are happy...go for it. ENJOY the search...should be FUN.

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