I have been looking for a CCW .45 for some time. I have looked (and shot) the glock, colt, ruger & S/W all great guns. However, I have not been able to fine a bersa thunder 45 to rent. All the ranges have stated they don't rent because of reliability. All the research I have done there is very little negative feedback on the Bersa irregardless of cal. My question is why is there so much bad talk about the Bersa? Most of the negative statments are mad from IMO are people who think they can shoot but really dont know how. I know I will catch crap for that but it is true. And for the record I am an ex-cop, ex-military, and was on the Air Force EST teams as a sniper. So I think I know how to shoot and shoot well. Your responses are welcomed
I think a better question is why so little interest in Bersas? Why no activity?
No one even looks at the Bersa forum on here. The bersatalk forum has 15 frequent posters and everyone else just reads it and runs away from it as fast as they can. Bersas aren't bad weapons, as a matter of fact they are nice guns. I understand on a board like this there actually has to be a few of them sold to generate some action. Maybe thats it, I am curious.
I use a Bersa Thunder 9 Pro HC. I don't have a lot of experience with other models but the full size Bersa fits my hand well and I like the heft of it as well as the large magazine. It seems that most who swear by Bersa use the UC's and I see very little commentary on the HC version. I can tell you it shoots as straight as I do and has never failed at the range.
Well, after reading this, Im actually considering a Thunder 9 Pro HC. Shame no ranges around here have Bersas to shoot at the range. Oh well, for 350 USD, I guess I really cant complain
Well, after reading this, Im actually considering a Thunder 9 Pro HC. Shame no ranges around here have Bersas to shoot at the range. Oh well, for 350 USD, I guess I really cant complain
Thunder HC9mmPro is a great gun. I have one and recently purchased a laser sight from my brother for it.
Bersa is a great brand that gets little recognition due to the almost non-existent advertising here in the states. Bersa is made in Argentina and the full size Thunder combat pistol is the standard sidearm of the Argentina Armed Forces (Thunder 9), Argentina Federal Police (Thunder 9), Buenos Aires Provincial Police (Thunder 9) and several other Law Enforcement agencies (Thunder 9 & 40).
So in that region of their world, Bersa is counted on by the good guys daily. Until just a few years ago I had never heard of FNH. or HK. so it is not surprising that many have not heard of Bersa.
Most people know, S&W, Ruger, Browning,Colt, Winchester and the other big name American founded brands. But there are many that have never even heard of Springfield.
No lie. I have a friend that lives in Ill, BIG gun guy. When I told him about my Springfield XDm he said. He never looked at generic guns. I asked him if it was the XDm or Springfield he did not know and he said he had never heard of Springfield. This dude is about 50 years old. If he had never heard of Springfield he has probably never heard of Bersa.
He is also probably not as BIG a gun dude as he pretends to be. Bersas are nice, cheap guns. I didn't even know Argentina had a military..............so all 6 guys use Bersas, thats cool. (befrore you get nutz it was a joke)
Bersa owners are like miata owners........They justify their products shortcomings by talking about the fact that they do go vroom when you step on the gas and man are they less money so you can put up with a rattle or rust spot or two. They look like the more expensive cars, until you look close. Bersas are a very good weapon for the money it takes to own one.
I used to own a Bersa I do not anymore. It was a good starter gun, I am seriously thinking about getting another one soon, for my daughter to carry. It is a great gun for her, I will not buy a Kel Tec.
Hold it and make sure it feels good first, then buy it because its cheap and has a good feel to it. Don't buy it because its cheap and then hold it and try to like it because you got some free bullets with it instead of the gun you want.
If you hold it and it feels good, very cool. Then you got a reliable weapon for very little scratch.
Local gun store just got in a Bersa Thunder 9 Pro HC. I handled it and it felt really good in hand. It is the first Bersa 9mm that I've seen in person, he usually keeps a few .380s in stock. Seems like a lot of gun for the money.
Local gun store just got in a Bersa Thunder 9 Pro HC. I handled it and it felt really good in hand. It is the first Bersa 9mm that I've seen in person, he usually keeps a few .380s in stock. Seems like a lot of gun for the money.
The BersaHC9Pro is a fine gun. I have one and can speak from experience that the quality and dependability of the Bersa I own is every bit as good as the Glock, XD, XDm, HS2000, Springfield 1911, Walther P99 that I own.
I am sure to get more guns and I am sure that my Bersa will continue to be a excellent pistol, with quality and performance equal to these new purchases.
I took my BHC9Pro to the range the same day I took my new G17 and New to me HS2000 and it was as accurate right out of the box as the New G17 and the HS that I had purchased from a guy in Arkansas.
If you buy one of these guns you will not be disappointed. This is my third Bersa, each one has been a step up in caliber or frame size. I have never been disappointed in my purchases. Neither will you.:smt1099
Well I purchased the Bersa HC9Pro this afternoon, I just couldn't resist it! Intended my next purchase to be a .45 or .40 since I already have a couple of 9mm but this gun was just calling out to me. Buy me! Buy me! So I did.
Congratulations MM1961. I'm sure you'll like it. Here is the text of a range report I did on my Bersa Thunder 9 on another forum last month, at which time it had surpassed 550 rounds without a failure and has now passed the 600 round mark. Here's what I said on the other forum:
"I made it up to the range today for some more "therapy" to my recently surgicalized shooting arm and continued shooting the Bersa Thunder 9. I'd say 95% of the rounds fired were fired in defensive exercises.
The pistol has now passed the 550 round mark without a failure of any kind, and that is with four brands of 115 gr FMJ and three brands of 115 and 124 grain JHP, one being +P and the other two being no slouches in the pressure department. I've double tapped, triple tapped, mag dumped, stagger loaded, didn't clean it for the first 300 rounds, and did everything else I can think of to make an auto pistol fail and it has refused to do so. I rapid fired a ten round aimed string of Gold Dot 124 +P's at a 6 inch bullseye target at 15 yards from the bench and they all went into about a three inch group.
So I'm hangin' in there with my earlier assessment that the Bersa Thunder 9 is not only a very good service pistol, it's probably the best "sleeper" to hit the market since the FEG PJK 9HP's twenty years ago. The Thunder 9 sells for $339 delivered to your FFL dealer from: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/produ....oducts_id/15060
Here's the pistol I'm referring to;
Best wishes"
And here is a quick photo of some accuracy testing I did with it earlier this year.
He is also probably not as BIG a gun dude as he pretends to be. Bersas are nice, cheap guns. I didn't even know Argentina had a military..............so all 6 guys use Bersas, thats cool. (befrore you get nutz it was a joke)
Bersa owners are like miata owners........They justify their products shortcomings by talking about the fact that they do go vroom when you step on the gas and man are they less money so you can put up with a rattle or rust spot or two. They look like the more expensive cars, until you look close. Bersas are a very good weapon for the money it takes to own one.
I used to own a Bersa I do not anymore. It was a good starter gun, I am seriously thinking about getting another one soon, for my daughter to carry. It is a great gun for her, I will not buy a Kel Tec.
Good point no sense taking the word of a long time gun owner. With experiance owning many brands to compare. One who knows a lot of other shooters who shoots weekly,shooting many weapons.......its best to get your info from wikipedia. Thank you for setting the record straight.
Bersa what a good weapon for the little bit of money it takes to own one. Worth every penny!
Must be jealous...BERSA is a great value by any standards.
I had to write the distributor in NJ and they were WONDERFUL and responsive...they actually did CUSTOMER SERVICE...as shocking as that might seem in today's world.
The only bad news with BERSA is that more folks are finding out about them and they are harder to find. We want to share good news like this!
PROS:
1. cost $$$$$
2. good CCW size
3. safety features
4. Very accutate at 8-10 yrds
CONS:
1. Caliber size in .380 (for me)
2. Hard on the hands after 60+ rounds ...
3. Field stripping is a challenge
oh......not a con of the actual gun......extra mags are HARD to find....
1. cost $$$$$ When you buy a handgun based on $$$...your just asking for problems
2. Hard on the hands after 60+ rounds .. That would be enough to cool me from buying
3. Field stripping is a challenge...That would be enough to cool me from buying
.extra mags are HARD to find....That would be another BIG negative for me
New here but I don't understand why field stripping would be a challenge. I have a nickle uc 45 and its easier than most of my autos but you do have be careful with what you clean the nickle finish with,
BTHC9mm is the easiest gun I have ever seen to field strip.
Drop the mag, flip the switch, slide goes off the front.
Could probably do it all with one hand and in a couple seconds with a little practice.
Check out a LOT of info at BERSA.com. They have a nice web site, good user Forums and such support speaks well for the product. If you want to know a lot about a firearm, ask the people who own and use them. Not that having a spiffy site makes a weapon any better, but it does speak to their success when you see their info and support. Some folks don't speak well of Bersa because they come in a BOX, not in a case. Obviously superficial and to help hold down costs.
Several indoor ranges I know/frequent sell and rent Bersa regularly. They always talk about the reliability. I have shot many of them without any issues. My wife has a 380 Thunder with Crimson Trace lasers and it is a winner. It is dead on accurate and again, never an issue. I have a Bersa ultra compact pro 9mm in duotone finish. Great weapon and after MANY rounds, no issues. I do keep it super clean, as we all do (?).
I have a Beretta Storm PX4 9mm sub compact and it is advertised as one of the most accurate guns in the business. It is a GREAT gun for sure but I am not so sure which I would pick if I had to go with Bersa or Beretta. Beretta has been around a LONG time and proven their worth over the years.
I believe the Bersa is one of the greatest values in handguns. Like everything else, it is only what YOU think that should count. If it feels good and you are comfortable when you shoot it, what else matters?
Whether it is guns or guitars, one guy likes Esteban guitars (while most "Experts" would say they are junque), and another swears by Martin or Gibson, the old line forever companies. Individual choice and as long as you are happy...go for it. ENJOY the search...should be FUN.
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Are you sure on that web address. Bersa.com comes up with a dead web page on my end.
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