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    Some guns need to have the rear sight adjusted to
    achieve accuracy. I did so with my Bersa Thunder .380, and now
    I can shoot 4" groups at 15 yards without using a rest.
    That's pretty accurate for a pistol with such a short barrel.

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    WOW. Been awhile since I stopped by this forum and was surprised this old post was still going.

    Had a slight switch in "hobby's" this summer. The wifey and I bought a new Arctic Cat TRV 650H1 atv. SO spending priorities and overall "quality time" focus has shifted a bit. (my old dirt bike/snomobile days came flooding back to reality and I'd forgotten how much FUN riding was.)
    I also became a US Citizen in September. Started the process in February, so needless to say it's been a busy year.


    UPDATE: Switched to WOLF ammo and believe it or not the BERSA likes it. Fewer FTF's. and overall accuracy seems better. The wifey's been shooting at the 5-7 yrd range and is happy with her "shots"

    She did have the "imfamous" Bersa spring malfunction. E-Clip popped off inside the grip, causing the trigger to stop functioning.

    IHMP it put her Bersa's overall reliability at issue with me, with her using it as her primary CCW.

    Seem this is a very COMMON failure with Bersa T380's with no proven dependable fix. "Limpwristing" causing a FTF jam seems to be the consensus as the most common cause of the malfuction.
    I re-installed the E-Clip and so-far NP.

    We still own it, but if it has ANOTHER E-Clip malfuction - it's gone. I'm already eye'n a Beretta PX4sc in 9mm for her.

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    It don't always make sense what some guns like to shoot best. if you found a round that makes you happy run with it.

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    Interesting thread. I just bought a Bersa Thunder .380 two weeks ago and my experience in the indoor range with it gave me the opposite impression. I found it to be quite accurate for such a short barreled gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jediwebdude View Post
    Interesting thread. I just bought a Bersa Thunder .380 two weeks ago and my experience in the indoor range with it gave me the opposite impression. I found it to be quite accurate for such a short barreled gun.
    Yes I've noticed that alot with others who own a T380. Everybody seems to be NOT having any issues with it. I shoot pretty consistantly and accurately in terms of groupings w/my other pistols. Not sure what is up with the BERSA.??

    I'd like to think it's NOT me. But I'm starting to have doubts. - it doesn't like me a guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupsz71 View Post
    Yes I've noticed that alot with others who own a T380. Everybody seems to be NOT having any issues with it. I shoot pretty consistantly and accurately in terms of groupings w/my other pistols. Not sure what is up with the BERSA.??

    I'd like to think it's NOT me. But I'm starting to have doubts. - it doesn't like me a guess...
    This is gonna sound a bit strange, but sometimes it is the pairing of the weapon with the user. A shooting buddy has a Kimber 1911. He can't get a tight grouping worth a darn with it, but when another buddy and I shoot it, we get excellent groupings. When he shoots my guns, he does fine. It's just when he shoots his 1911 that he struggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jediwebdude View Post
    Interesting thread. I just bought a Bersa Thunder .380 two weeks ago and my experience in the indoor range with it gave me the opposite impression. I found it to be quite accurate for such a short barreled gun.
    I shoot my wifes T380 at an indoor range quite often. Neither my wife or me have any issues with accuracy out to 15 yds (5-7" groups consistently). Most often we shoot at defensive ranges of 21 ft or less and unless there is a flinch by the operator, the accuracy is more than enough for defensive purposes. Remember, it's not a target gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekhead1219 View Post
    Remember, it's not a target gun.
    +1

    Yea......I sometimes forget that. But in my own defense...my XD9sc w/3" barrel is a BEAUTIFUL shooter that puts rounds on target in 2" or less groupings at 7-10 yrds.
    I know it's like comparing apples - oranges, but I had high expectations the BERSA would a least be "close".

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mactex View Post
    Keep in mind that there are two ways to setup sites, or site picture, on a gun. It sounds like you are used to having the target sit on top of the front site which is one of the methods. The Bersa uses the other method where you put the front site on the target, sometimes refered to as combat sites if I'm not mistaken. After I figured that out, I have not had any problems keeping my shot groups really tight out to about 15 yards (3-6 inches on a good day!).
    This is a very important point regarding Bersas: they shoot a 'dead-on hold', not a 'six-o'clock hold'. In other words -- as MacTex describes -- you aim with your front sight COVERING the target point, NOT UNDER it. The latter will result in low shots.
    I think this single adjustment will solve most shooters' problem with 'inaccurate' Bersas.
    I find the .380 -- especially the concealed carry edition, which has a very low-profile front sight -- to be a fine little point-and-shoot pistol. At 'social' ranges -- at which it is most likely to be used in live action -- simple, informal sighting down the barrel will result in plenty accurate results (minus that dratted first-round, double-action opener!).

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    I owned a BT380, sold it and bought a LCP. Lighter and IMHO shoots as good as the Bersa did. The Bersa to me was a bit heavier than I wanted in a pocket gun. Never really had an issue with accuracy. It seemed to shoot fine out of the box.

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    Update on my Thunder 380. I have no issue with accuracy. Out to 15 Yards (it is a pocket gun guys!) I get very good accuracy, it shoots right with my G23 out to that range. I can't carry it though as it has at least three FTFeed every range session. I keep it clean, use factory mags and fire good ball ammo (experimented with several brands.) I sent it back and had it worked on and it still does it. Shame, it is a very handy and attractive little gun for carry. I still EDC S&W 642/640. Yes, I may be limp wristing it but you have to be realistic in CCW, you will not always be assuming your best "school" grip and stance when SHTF.

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    Cool

    Before I deceided to buy my BT 380 Plus,I did quite a lot of research on small caliber SD weapons.This gun is perfect for my wife in terms of size,operation,etc.This ACP compares equal to or even excells in comparison to other current .380 AUTO's on the market except the price.
    I find it to be accurate and have no problem using it as a SD carry weapon ( when she let's me use it! )

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    Nathan, quick point of interest about your wife shooting to the right. "My wife has one that she kept swearing shoots to the right" If the Lee target for correction is any indicator, hits to the right (3:00 position) indicates "Thumbing (squeezing thumb) or Too Much Trigger Finger. If shots are at about the 1-2:00 position it is "Heeling" or anticipating recoil. At the 4-5:00 position to the right, it's "Tightening Grip While Pulling Trigger".

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