Originally Posted by jediwebdude

Interesting thread. I just bought a Bersa Thunder .380 two weeks ago and my experience in the indoor range with it gave me the opposite impression. I found it to be quite accurate for such a short barreled gun.

I shoot my wifes T380 at an indoor range quite often. Neither my wife or me have any issues with accuracy out to 15 yds (5-7" groups consistently). Most often we shoot at defensive ranges of 21 ft or less and unless there is a flinch by the operator, the accuracy is more than enough for defensive purposes. Remember, it's not a target gun.

Originally Posted by tekhead1219

Remember, it's not a target gun.

+1

Yea......I sometimes forget that. But in my own defense...my XD9sc w/3" barrel is a BEAUTIFUL shooter that puts rounds on target in 2" or less groupings at 7-10 yrds.
I know it's like comparing apples - oranges, but I had high expectations the BERSA would a least be "close".

Thanks

Originally Posted by mactex

Keep in mind that there are two ways to setup sites, or site picture, on a gun. It sounds like you are used to having the target sit on top of the front site which is one of the methods. The Bersa uses the other method where you put the front site on the target, sometimes refered to as combat sites if I'm not mistaken. After I figured that out, I have not had any problems keeping my shot groups really tight out to about 15 yards (3-6 inches on a good day!).

This is a very important point regarding Bersas: they shoot a 'dead-on hold', not a 'six-o'clock hold'. In other words -- as MacTex describes -- you aim with your front sight COVERING the target point, NOT UNDER it. The latter will result in low shots.
I think this single adjustment will solve most shooters' problem with 'inaccurate' Bersas.
I find the .380 -- especially the concealed carry edition, which has a very low-profile front sight -- to be a fine little point-and-shoot pistol. At 'social' ranges -- at which it is most likely to be used in live action -- simple, informal sighting down the barrel will result in plenty accurate results (minus that dratted first-round, double-action opener!).

I owned a BT380, sold it and bought a LCP. Lighter and IMHO shoots as good as the Bersa did. The Bersa to me was a bit heavier than I wanted in a pocket gun. Never really had an issue with accuracy. It seemed to shoot fine out of the box.

Update on my Thunder 380. I have no issue with accuracy. Out to 15 Yards (it is a pocket gun guys!) I get very good accuracy, it shoots right with my G23 out to that range. I can't carry it though as it has at least three FTFeed every range session. I keep it clean, use factory mags and fire good ball ammo (experimented with several brands.) I sent it back and had it worked on and it still does it. Shame, it is a very handy and attractive little gun for carry. I still EDC S&W 642/640. Yes, I may be limp wristing it but you have to be realistic in CCW, you will not always be assuming your best "school" grip and stance when SHTF.

Before I deceided to buy my BT 380 Plus,I did quite a lot of research on small caliber SD weapons.This gun is perfect for my wife in terms of size,operation,etc.This ACP compares equal to or even excells in comparison to other current .380 AUTO's on the market except the price.
I find it to be accurate and have no problem using it as a SD carry weapon ( when she let's me use it! )

Nathan, quick point of interest about your wife shooting to the right. "My wife has one that she kept swearing shoots to the right" If the Lee target for correction is any indicator, hits to the right (3:00 position) indicates "Thumbing (squeezing thumb) or Too Much Trigger Finger. If shots are at about the 1-2:00 position it is "Heeling" or anticipating recoil. At the 4-5:00 position to the right, it's "Tightening Grip While Pulling Trigger".