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    I always carry with one in the chamber, and safety off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
    I always carry with one in the chamber, and safety off.
    Hammer fully cocked back? While jumping up and down?

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    Do not carry any firearms that need to be cocked while carrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
    Do not carry any firearms that need to be cocked while carrying.
    why

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    Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
    I always carry with one in the chamber, and safety off.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    Hammer fully cocked back? While jumping up and down?
    ...Well, I do keep my pistol's hammer "fully cocked back" while I am having, um, marital relations. Is that the same as "jumping up and down"?


    Back when I was still competing, we frequently did an exercise called The Cooper Assault, which included vaulting as quickly as possible over a six-foot wall.
    Most of us carried 1911s, for competition (or P.35s—they work the same).
    The wall was always taken with the holstered pistol in Condition One: Chamber loaded, hammer cocked, safety on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    ...Well, I do keep my pistol's hammer "fully cocked back" while I am having, um, marital relations. Is that the same as "jumping up and down"?


    Back when I was still competing, we frequently did an exercise called The Cooper Assault, which included vaulting as quickly as possible over a six-foot wall.
    Most of us carried 1911s, for competition (or P.35s—they work the same).
    The wall was always taken with the holstered pistol in Condition One: Chamber loaded, hammer cocked, safety on.

    So after you scaled the wall, would you rear back and fire that 1911 like it was going out of style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    So after you scaled the wall, would you rear back and fire that 1911 like it was going out of style?
    No. I would take four quick, accurate shots at two targets, reholster, and dive through a six-feet-long tunnel.
    At the end of the tunnel, I would switch to left-hand-only, and fire three more quick, accurate shots.

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    How did that work out for you?

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    Because they are double action, or striker fired.
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    why

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    How did that work out for you?
    I placed Second in my class twice; dead last once, when I sprained my wrist and couldn't make it over the wall; and I was disqualified once, when I allowed my pistol to contact the tunnel, and it was knocked out of its holster.
    No, it didn't fire. Its safety was on.

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    I think well over 90% of the guns I've carried have had the hammer cocked while carrying, safety on of course.

    LAGuy, guns that are meant to be carried hammer cocked, safety on are just fine.

    Guns such as your Beretta are not meant to be carried with the hammer cocked.

    Quote Originally Posted by VAMarine View Post
    Fully cocked, safety off is stupid and 99.8% of people do not carry that way. The .2 are probably not long forf this world.

    If the gun is to be carried loaded...as it should be; it will be in one of the following states:
    1: chamber loaded, no safety ie your Glock, M&P etc.
    2: chamber loaded, hammer down safety on or off this would be for your beretta etc. They can be decocked and safety placed into the firing position. There are plenty of DA/SA guns that have a decocker and no safety.
    3: hammer cocked, safety on. This is for your single action autos like the 1911, Hi Power and some other variants which are cocked and locked capable like some HKs and CZs.

    That is it...no more, no less, thread closed.

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