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    rikohio Guest

    Px4 unintentional discharge

    First off, long time looker, first time poster.
    Last saturday 11/03 i picked up a Px4 Storm sub compact .40 from a friend, gun is 2 years old, im the second owner, 300 rnds fired, no mods, in excellent condition.
    Came with the blue box and all the case candy as well. I sold my trusty Beretta 92D that ive owned for 15+ years to fund the purchase, for this smaller CCW pistol.

    I read the Beretta manual front to back twice, and looked at a lot of video of people handling and shooting the Px4.
    So i gave the Px4 a good cleaning, put the safety on/down, loaded the clip, and proceeded to chamber the first round.
    Pulled back the slide and released it and the gun immediately fired, stiking me through and through my left calf.
    At no point did I ever have my finger even close to the trigger. Has anyone else heard of any unintentional firing of the Px4 with the safety engaged/lever down?

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    I have the exact Px4 you have and haven't experienced anything like this. Mechanical things fail though so who knows, I really hope you get to feeling better and everything works out.

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    Sorry you shot yourself. Was it reassembled properly? Perhaps the firing pin was stuck in the forward position. I've never heard of any other incidents like yours.

    Oh, and not to be a jerk, but...
    1. ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.


    Your leg is not a safe direction.

    If folks were more mindful of this single rule, the other rules would be less necessary. Still necessary, but this one rule solves 99% of issues with firearms. It's easy to get complacent when it's something we've done for decades... this is a stark and painful reminder.

    Best of luck on the healing process.

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    rikohio Guest
    I have since looked at my gun and it absolutely fires every time you jack the slide with the safety lever on/down without touching the trigger. with safety lever down the firing pin should rotate out of the way, and the gun should not be able to fire a bullet. Its malfunctioning. just thought id pass it on so everyone can check out their Px4s and assure this is not happening with your guns.

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    Sorry yo hear what happened! Glad you are alive!

    I've owned two PX4s, and I have own(ed) many 92s. I'm very familiar with the designs, and that's why I like the guns so much... Be aware, that with the safety down (in the safe position) -- if you pull the slide back and drop the slide, the hammer will follow the slide immediately - but shouldn't fire the gun.

    The rotation of the safety levers (in safe position) does turn a part that keeps the firing pin from being hit by the hammer. This is strange indeed. Mechanically, I do not see how this can happen.

    How did the detective verify that the gun fired each time - do you know? Just the dropping of the hammer (as it falls, following the slide) isn't firing the gun. Without a snapcap (or an actual live round) - he wouldn't know that this is truly firing the gun when the hammer follows the slide.

    Please keep us informed.

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    Just got back from my local gun shop, checked out several other Px4s.
    Rotating firing pin mechanism, safety and hammer all seemed to operate identical.
    This one had/has a mechanical failure or hiccup of some kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikohio View Post
    First off, long time looker, first time poster.
    Last saturday 11/03 i picked up a Px4 Storm sub compact .40 from a friend, gun is 2 years old, im the second owner, 300 rnds fired, no mods, in excellent condition.
    Came with the blue box and all the case candy as well. I sold my trusty Beretta 92D that ive owned for 15+ years to fund the purchase, for this smaller CCW pistol.

    I read the Beretta manual front to back twice, and looked at a lot of video of people handling and shooting the Px4.
    So i gave the Px4 a good cleaning, put the safety on/down, loaded the clip, and proceeded to chamber the first round.
    Pulled back the slide and released it and the gun immediately fired, stiking me through and through my left calf.
    At no point did I ever have my finger even close to the trigger. Has anyone else heard of any unintentional firing of the Px4 with the safety engaged/lever down?
    With all due respect, I find this very hard to believe. I'm very familiar with Beretta's having taken apart both the 92FS and PX4 subcompact and compact and more specifically the workings in which you refer(I own 2 G models, i.e. no safety). In order for what you claimed to have happened not 1 but 2 safety features had to fail simultaneously. Not impossible, but highly unlikely, especially w/ a Beretta. 1st would be the rotating firing pin plunger did not rotate upward but remained in line with the firing pin as the safety was engaged and 2nd the firing pin block failed simultaneously. To check functionality please make sure the pistol is unloaded pull back the hammer rearward and rotate the safety down. The firing pin plunger should rotate upward thus rendering the firing pin inoperational. 2nd, the firing pin block, block's the firing pin until the very last stage of the trigger pull which allows the sear to disengage and fire. Unless that malfunctioned as well the only way to make the pistol discharge would be to pull the trigger fully to the rear. If I were to bet, I'd believe your friend whom you obtained the firearm from did a little monkeying around w/ the pistol and left out some crucial parts. Ask him if he has ever fully taken the pistol apart including the safety mechanism. Glad you are okay.
    Last edited by denner; 11-29-2012 at 11:31 PM.

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