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    Can you help me identify this gun?

    Someone on a 1911 forum posted these pics, wanting to know what it is. The trigger guard tells me it's a Beretta. However, I'm pretty new to guns and just recently acquired my first Beretta. I figured this would be the place to ask. Any help would be appreciated. BTW, I'm Skot, a new member from Wichita, KS. Good to be here.











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    It's not a Beretta of the 92 ilk(no locking block, fixed barrel), or any other Beretta 80's series for that matter of the blowback design w/ a fixed barrel of that type. The 92 series was derived from the M1922(open slide design) and the Walther P-38(locking block/open slide design) in 1951 and evolved to what we have today, never had a fixed barrel. The trigger guard looks like a later model 92FS design, but whatever that is above was never in the Beretta chain. Looks like a sad attempt at a copy; as many country's did produce offtakes of the Beretta 1951/92 design. I can't identify it, but I'm cetain at least it's not a Beretta, mama mia.
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    Thank you, denner. Much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarsandguns View Post
    Thank you, denner. Much appreciated.
    No problem, but there are others much better in identification that should be able to help if possible.

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    Thoughts:
    1. It's a casting, not a forging. Maybe a "non-gun"?
    2. Integral barrel, neither pressed nor pinned in place. Still maybe a "non-gun." But maybe there's a steel liner? So maybe a .22 rimfire?
    3. Barrel sits way up high, so recoil spring rode underneath the barrel. Thus not a Walther-PPK-style pistol. However, most probably DA/SA ("Traditional DA").
    4. The missing rear half of the frame and grip would've contained the firing mechanism. Thus frame too weak to be for any reasonably potent caliber. Maybe a .22 rimfire.
    5. Well, it does seem to have a serial number (top photo, on frame, just under middle of barrel). So maybe it's really a gun after all. Still maybe a .22 rimfire.
    6. Maybe something Spanish? Or South American?

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    Looks like the frame for a Bruni Beretta 92, EKOL Firat Compact or similar 8mm/9mmPAK blank firing pistol.

    Here's a photo clipped out of a video of a Bruni 92:



    Not exact, but pretty close. As Steve has said, the missing rear section would have the firing mechanism in it.
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    Yep, DJ's right, it's some type of beaten up dissasembled blank firing replica.
    Last edited by denner; 10-24-2012 at 08:27 PM.

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    Thanks for all the good info, Y'all.

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    Maybe a an older Excam import, they had some that looked like a Beretta.
    Last edited by roo; 11-09-2012 at 11:07 AM. Reason: spelling

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