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    96a1 problem

    Bought a 96 a1 today, brought it home and field stripped it and while putting it back together the slide locked up. It's about a quarter of an inch from being all the way back and it will slide about a quarter of an inch back and fourth but won't go all the way back. This is my first beretta so i did read the instructions but i have done something stupid. What have I done? How do I fix it?

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    a few things to try

    is the safety OFF?
    is the hammer down?
    is the take down lever still in the open position?
    did you put a mag in? if so remove it
    palm slap the butt like you were inserting a magazine (just incase something has slipped)

    now firmly grip the slide and pull forward

    if not cock the hammer, see if it releases the slide?

    if the trigger will move, try to ease the slide forward with the trigger depressed.

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    2 strongest possibilities.

    Either the guiderod is not set right in the right place.

    Or, you hve a mag in the gun while trying to do this...

    One more - is the slide lock still in the "DOWN" position. That is what locks the slide. If you have it in the locked position before the slide is on, the slide will never go on

    Also, cock the hammer before you put the slide on... (and never pull the trigger and drop the hammer (on its own) with the slide off the frame)

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    The slide lock is down, safety is off, hammer is down, no mag in it, and I can't get the slide off to check the guiderod. It just rocks back and fourth

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    cock the hammer

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    I tried, it didn't release the slide. Thanks for the help, I will try anything. This is pissing me off now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsmith1 View Post
    I tried, it didn't release the slide. Thanks for the help, I will try anything. This is pissing me off now.
    then put it down and walk away for an hour.... frustration makes us over look the obvious.....

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    Can you push up on the exposed part of the guide rod? Then try to move the slide...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
    then put it down and walk away for an hour.... frustration makes us over look the obvious.....
    That's so funny. Good advice. I put it down for a little bit and came back and the damn thing racked like nothing was wrong. It seems to be fine now. I have taken it down A couple of times and its good. Thanks for the help.

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    I'm really not an idiot, I promise. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsmith1 View Post
    I'm really not an idiot, I promise. Lol
    that kinda thing has happened to all of us, i promise

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    Did you somehow cram the guiderod/recoil spring in backwards? I just tried it on mine but it was really hard to get the guiderod in backwards. Anyway, this gave the same problem you are having.

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    New Model 96A1 locking problem

    I had the same experience with my New 96A1...when I was disassembling it.
    it wll jam(lockup) some of the time. it take several tries to get it to unlock
    after several attempts I am able to push the slide to the rear and get to cycle correctly.

    Then it seem to work fine from then on....? not sure what is causing it to jam some of the time.
    magazine is out when this happens.

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    If you don't get the guide rod centered it won't go back together, it will catch. Next time be sure to center it up and see if that helps.

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    If the guide rod is not centered and seated it will do just what you described. When you play with it, it may center and seat itself then mysteriously everything is fine.

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    Strange. I have two 92A1s and do not have this issue at all.

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    I've got an M96 that's pretty old and a little beat up, and it's never had this issue either.

    Make sure the slide release isn't over-rotated. When cleaning the other day, I saw that you could rotate the lever too far, and that might cause it to jam up on you.

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    My 96A1 works fine when the factory captive spring and guide rod are installed...no problem when you try to disassembly it...it comes apart normally and ok.

    but when I have a solid steel guide rod and regular spring it locks up when you try to disassemble. I purchased a new guide rod from Wolff for a Bretta 92/96 Fullsize and it gives me
    the same lock up when you try to disassemble it. I called Wolff and they said only the factory captive guide/spring unit works with the 96A1 model.
    Any ideas why the older steel guide rod is causing locking problems on dissembly?
    thanks

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