I braved 30 degree weather to see how my new Compact would function. I fired 200 rounds of assorted ammo from 115 to 147 grn weights. First off this Compact has the lightest felt recoil of any PX4 including the full size and subcompact models. The Beretta engineers tweaked the recoil system using a double spring and a polymer enclosure for the spring. Whatever they did really works and even hot +P loads are comfortable to shoot.
1. 100 rnds 115 grn Winchester White Box FMJ, perfect function and a great practise load.
2. 50 rnds 115,124 and 147 Federal American Eagle FMJ, perfect function and again great practise ammunition.
3. 20 rnds 147 grn Federal HST HP, perfect function and a good defense load, very accurate
4. 20 rnds 147 grn Winchester PDX1 HP, perfect function and a good defense load, extremely accurate
5. 10 rnds 124 grn Speer Gold Dot +P HP, perfect function and the hottest load tested, very accurate and good defense load.
My Compact is now at Robar for their NP3 electroless nickle finish, something I've done to 4 other pistols and highly recommend. This new PX4 I feel is the best one of the series and hopefully they'll come out with a "C" system Model.
40 S&W Compact?
Just wondering if anyone has heard anything further on the release date for the 40 s&w version of the new px4 storm compact? I have the full size and love it, but would definitely like to try out the compact version for concealing before deciding between it and the sub-compact.
I posted Dave Spaulding's review of the PX4 Compact this morning. Here's an excerpt from his range report:
"While the PX4 Storm Compact has all of the right features needed on a combat handgun, only a trip to the range will tell the whole story. As a user of mostly striker-fired pistols these days, I was a bit concerned about having to re-educate my finger to manipulate the double action/single action (DA/SA) hammer-fired trigger system, and my first attempt to group the gun displayed this. Yep, my first shot went low left (7 oíclock), but once in the SA mode, I cruised right along.
Checking the trigger with a custom set of precision weights made for me by a friend, I discovered the DA trigger pull measures 10 lbs. and the SA 5 lbs. To be fair, the DA trigger was actually reasonably smooth, while the SA was about .5″ long, though a bit of over-travel was evident. Often such over-travel is built into a gunís design to ensure reliable function with even the worst quality ammo, but the longer the trigger and its subsequent reset, the harder it is to separate the index finger from the rest of your hand. Fortunately, in my experience the more you shoot a modern DA/SA pistol, the better the action gets. Practice really does improve performance, regardless of the gun used.
I opted to test the PX4 Compact by shooting five-round groups from a bench rest at 25 yards using the excellent Giles Bags from The Wilderness. These bags vary in shape and size, can be stacked for individual use and are easy to keep in your range bag.
I placed my Shooting Chrony chronograph 15 feet from the muzzle of the PX4 Compact and also fired five rounds to obtain average velocity. I opted to use several street proven loads for this testing (why would you use anything else?). The results:
* Corbon 100-grain Powerball: 1,339 fps, 3.5″ group*
* Federal 115 grain 9BP HP: 1,142 fps, 2.5″ group
* Speer Gold 124 grain HST +P Short Barrel: 1,209 fps, 2.25″ group
* Winchester 127 grain SXT +P+: 1,247 fps, 1.25″ group
* Federal 147 grain HST +P: 1,010 fps, 2.5″ group
*Note: I believe a short explanation is due here. I stated earlier that when I first stared shooting I pulled one of my first DA shots low left due unfamiliarity with the long trigger stroke. That was the case when grouping the Corbon Powerball load. If Iíd thrown out this round, the Powerball would have grouped at 2.25″.
As you can plainly see, any of the loads listed would make a good choice for the PX4 Compact. Considering the gun is equipped with a 3.2″ barrel, the velocity readings were most encouraging.
Like I do with all guns I evaluate, I completed a combative pistol practice session with the Compact to finish the reliability portion of the test. I couldíve just target shot with the remaining 300-plus rounds I had on hand, that just seems like a waste of time to me because I consider a handgun a piece of personal security equipment. The way I see it, testing it combatively is the only way to go.
I didnít have a holster for the PX4 Compact, so I enlisted the help of the Blackhawk Ambidextrous Flat Belt Holster that I keep on hand for just this type of situation. The Ambidextrous Flat Belt is designed to work on any belt up to 2″ wide and fits most small to medium frame automatics and revolvers. It has an adjustable thumb break, which is fully ambidextrous and is made of ballistic 1000 denier nylon. This isnít the optimal holster for concealed carry, but it does keep the gun from falling on the floor, and while itís not as fast as a Kydex scabbard, itís very usable with just a bit of practice and quite concealable due to its flat design. Most any double-stack magazine pouch will work with the PX4 magazines, so I had a useful practice carry rig.
I completed my testing with a series of El Presidenteí Drills (including Ken Hackathornís more realistic moving, slide-lock version), Bill Drills, supine and seated shooting, concealed draws and reloads, and some shooting-on-the-move box drills.
When it came to speed reloads, the PX4 Compact has a nicely beveled magazine well that allowed for snag free reloads. The flat magazine floor plates helped to solidly lock the magazines in place, but did not hinder concealment.
In all, I shot 350 rounds with no hiccups. I like the Compactís size, weight, feel and point-ability, as well as how nicely it came from concealment and on target without snagging. I also appreciated how accurate the little gun proved to be, no doubt due to the advanced rotating barrel design."
The complete review is here: Beretta PX4 Storm Compact Review | GunGunsGuns.net
PX4 Compact Springs Problem
The following is from a post in the Beretta Forum about the PX4 Compact recoil springs.
"... according to busa repair centers they have found that after the initial batch of perfect springs all made since have had way to much tension, on this coming monday they are gonna start a process to replace all springs with issues for free, apparently we will need to go to their website and sign up for the replacement springs, they will be trying to get it all set up to start this monday so all of you that were complaining about the springs you were right..."
PX4 Storm Compact in 40s&w - Release Date
For those of you patiently waiting for the compact version to be released in 40s&w, here is my reply from Beretta:
PX4 Storm Compact - 40 S&W
Response Via Email - 05/02/2011 02:10 PM
The PX-4 compact in 40 cal. is expected to arrive at Beretta USA, 9-20-11.
Thank you for contacting Beretta Customer Support.
Beretta Customer Support
My spring problem has been resolved, the newer ones should already have the new spring system. Love the way it shoots, mine is a nail driver and conceals nicely as well, about the same size as a G-19.
I purchased a Beretta PX4 Storm Sub Compact .40 and it is a piece of junk. It jams on me every 3 or 4 rounds (I also checked the serial number at Beretta and mine does not require a repair kit). What further angers me is people keep attributing this jamming to limp wristing, however I was in the military and I expect my weapons to go through heck and back; mud, blood, one handed firing, two handed firing, wrestling, grappling and serious defensive maneuvering. If I do not have time to obtain a proper grip or am limp wristing because I have carpal tunnel; then "limp wristing" should not be accepted as a reason for failure nor relied on for personal defense in any scenario. If you are injured, good luck getting out a round or clearing it quickly. I can clear it quickly and efficiently at the range, which is great practice -- but not realistic for defense. It sure is a great looking handgun, the sub-compact size is perfect for a male to conceal and carry under baggy clothing and fits in the holster of a S&A XD Sub-Compact. However, I am a very slight framed female and must rely on a smaller weapon to fit under my more fitted clothing.
The ergonomic grips on this weapon feel amazing...initially. I switched to the smaller ones, however they are still too large for me. If you have larger hands, then this won't be a problem. But for me, this weapon is just not a good fit at all and it is important to try and find one to fire first (in my opinion). Your warm fuzzy feelings might solidify or go away completely depending on this experience.
Safire, the subcompact and compact are different handguns. The PX4 Compact was the only one to have the initial recoil issue w/ very early models and the recoil spring kit upgrade not the subcompact. Likewise the compact has a thinner grip as well. I likewise have the subcompact in 9mm and that pistol has never jammed after 1,500 rounds, it does have a beefier grip. I'd contact Beretta to determine the jamming issue, are you riding your hand high on the pistol, perhaps contacting the slide while firing? Very unusual the PX4 subcompact would have any jamming issues, normally they have a reputation of being ultra reliable, but i only have experience with the 9mm.
Originally Posted by Safire
Last edited by denner; 07-14-2012 at 07:26 PM.
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