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    I agree with everyone's opinion here, nice shooter and $400.00 to boot. As long as they can keep the price down it will be a good deal, for more get the Beretta PX-4.

    And speaking about the PX-4, I wish now that Beretta has a polymer model that they would make a frame mounted decocker like the FNP-9 because the present safety/decocker sometimes bothers me when I rack it.

    That besides the weight is why they don't sell more of them, IMO.

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    I just got mine in the .40 the other day I pick it up next week I'm super stoked I've heard nothing but great things about the cougar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewdtf View Post
    I just got mine in the .40 the other day I pick it up next week I'm super stoked I've heard nothing but great things about the cougar.

    Congrats on your purchase! When you have had a chance to shoot it, let us know how you like it. I read that the Cougar eats up recoil even with .40 and I'd like to know if it's true. Please comment on ergonomics and grip comfort too. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewdtf View Post
    I just got mine in the .40 the other day I pick it up next week I'm super stoked I've heard nothing but great things about the cougar.
    Drew, you gonna' love it. I take mine out and break it down nearly every day. I have never seen a pistol anywhere that you can break down so effortlessly. I still can't believe the ridiculously low price of this thing.

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    Stoeger vs. Beretta

    Is the Stoeger Cougar identical to the original Beretta Cougar? They look identical except for the Beretta or Stoeger emblems on the grip.
    and the small clip on the Stoeger. (What is that for?) I think I like the looks of the Beretta better.

    [B]Beretta Cougar:[/B


    Stoeger Cougar:

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    Do the beretta magazines for the stoeger? I would think they would any one know? Any one know about accessories too? does most of the beretta stuff go both ways?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewdtf View Post
    Do the beretta magazines for the stoeger? I would think they would any one know? Any one know about accessories too? does most of the beretta stuff go both ways?
    Yes, they work fine. Pretty much anything that will fit the Beretta Cougar will also fit the Stoeger Cougar.

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    So I've got a little over 300 rounds through my new Cougar and I love it. Great feel not too big fits my average size hand perfectly, great power, amazing accuracy Very low recoil I shot it for the first time with a buddy of mine and he had his glock 17, the difference in recoil is very noticeable It felt like a 9mm to me, I have the .40 S&W and so far I have no complaints it live in my dresser drawer a foot away from my head board and I would recommend this gun to anyone looking to get a great .40 fro a great price. I got mine for 4 out the door.

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    Good choice Drew. I like mine more and more everyday.

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    I love my Stoeger Cougar 9mm

    I've had my Stoeger now for probably 6-8 months. I think it is hands down the best value in a 9mm pistol for the money. It is extremely well designed and manufactured. For a 15 round gun, I think it is pretty compact. The large indentation on the backside of the upper part of the grip seems to really make the gun fit your hand well. And the rotating barrel design gives it one of the smoothest, easiest actions out there. It is so easy to rack the slide on this gun compared to most handguns. But on top of all of these things, it is a VERY accurate gun. With the Cougar, rather than the barrel camming up and down as it does on most guns, the Cougar barrel rotates and is always in alignment with the target as it strips the spent shell and loads the next round. I have found that I am the limitation as far as how tight the groups are that it produces. I absolutely love my Cougar and will probably never get rid of it. On top of that, I bought it for $299. I wasn't even looking to buy a handgun that day...I was shotgun shopping. But when I saw the price, and knew that it was essentially a Beretta Cougar, I just couldn't pass it up. The only thing I wish it had was a rail for my TLR-1 light. However, I have word from the Stoeger factory in Turkey that a railed Cougar should be out in 2010. I plan on buying one as soon as it hits the market. If you have the funds, I highly recommend buying a Stoeger Cougar. I just don't think you'll regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donato View Post
    Is the Stoeger Cougar identical to the original Beretta Cougar? They look identical except for the Beretta or Stoeger emblems on the grip.
    and the small clip on the Stoeger. (What is that for?) I think I like the looks of the Beretta better.

    [B]Beretta Cougar:[/B


    Stoeger Cougar:
    from what I know, Beretta sold the tooling to Stoeger. so, it is essentially the same gun. not something that was reverse engineered to be manufactured by somebody else.
    I got to test a Stoeger Cougar last week. I am by no means a great shooter, but this gun made me look good from 10 yards out. I like how the gun feels when holding and aiming , and pulling the SA trigger was light with little recoil. the rotating barrel was cool to see how it operates.

    makes me want one.

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    Would someone who owns or has fired the PX4 Storm and the Stoeger Cougar comment on how the PX4 compares with the Cougar, i.e., recoil, trigger pull/weight, grip comfort? Please note if the guns you shot were 9mm or 40. I am seriously considering one of these two models as my second 9mm or 40, especially if the 40 has fairly light recoil. Thanks!

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    Wink Px4 - cougar

    Hey Donato,

    I believe you have read some of my other posts about my recent px4 purchase, but I saw your post here and thought I might be able to help. I have a few posts about this topic in the "Px4 rotating barrel" thread, but I will give you my overall opinion of these 2...

    First of all, the cougar that I have experience with is a "Beretta" and 9mm, I have never held the Stoeger, but I doubt my opinion would change at all. I love the Cougar. I think it is a well made gun, it is attractive, it is comfortable, it is accurate, and the barrel system really is amazing. I shot at least 500 rounds out of one before I knew that the Px4 existed. (I am only 23 now) It really is a great pistol .

    Having said that, I had to check out the Px4. This is a model that was designed as the replacement of the cougar. For the most part, the crucial working parts are the same. Everything that I like about the Cougar, IMO is even better on the Px4. The Cougar is a good looking damn pistol, and the Px4 is just gorgeous. I, like you, do not have large hands. The grips on the Px4 accommodate this problem. It feels like I was born with it in my hands, fantastic grip to it. Of course the Px4 is polymer so it feels lighter in comparison. I don't know if it is the balance or what but the Px4 seems to recoil even less than the cougar. More importantly to me, muzzle flip is lighter which increases your recovery time for the next shot. IMO, you really can't go wrong with the Px4, unless you are just a steel frame kinda guy. Donato, if you are looking for a stellar 9mm, this is your boy right here!

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    [QUOTE=falchunt;182427]
    Hey Donato,

    I believe you have read some of my other posts about my recent px4 purchase, but I saw your post here and thought I might be able to help. I have a few posts about this topic in the "Px4 rotating barrel" thread, but I will give you my overall opinion of these 2...

    First of all, the cougar that I have experience with is a "Beretta" and 9mm, I have never held the Stoeger, but I doubt my opinion would change at all. I love the Cougar. I think it is a well made gun, it is attractive, it is comfortable, it is accurate, and the barrel system really is amazing. I shot at least 500 rounds out of one before I knew that the Px4 existed. (I am only 23 now) It really is a great pistol .

    Having said that, I had to check out the Px4. This is a model that was designed as the replacement of the cougar. For the most part, the crucial working parts are the same. Everything that I like about the Cougar, IMO is even better on the Px4. The Cougar is a good looking damn pistol, and the Px4 is just gorgeous. I, like you, do not have large hands. The grips on the Px4 accommodate this problem. It feels like I was born with it in my hands, fantastic grip to it. Of course the Px4 is polymer so it feels lighter in comparison. I don't know if it is the balance or what but the Px4 seems to recoil even less than the cougar. More importantly to me, muzzle flip is lighter which increases your recovery time for the next shot. IMO, you really can't go wrong with the Px4, unless you are just a steel frame kinda guy. Donato, if you are looking for a stellar 9mm, this is your boy right here! [/QUOTE

    Thanks for your outstanding post! Your remarks have been very, very helpful. You made me LOL, though, when you described the PX4 as "gorgeous." Only a true handgun affecionado would talk like that. I mean, I've heard men call women "gorgeous," and women speak of men as "gorgeous," but never a pistol! Well, I recently purchased an FNP-9 in bitone and I love that too, but I still would like a second pistol and I think you have sold me on the PX4. I just have to hold one in my hand and see how this "gorgeous" baby feels. (I held and dry fired a PX4 .40 but not a 9mm - are they different in size?) There is a local gun shop that has one in stock so I think I can do that soon. THanks again for the post. Your positive view of the gun really shined through.

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    Glad I could supply the laugh, and I hope you get to check the 9mm out soon. To be honest, I don't know if there is size differnce in 9mm vs 40 px4. If there is, it probably is not much. Either way, enjoy your shooting and be safe.

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    Some time ago I was searching for a Beretta Cougar and couldn't find one. I did find a new Stoeger Cougar in .40 cal at quite a bit less than the price of the Berettas. Bought it and have had no regrets. I wanted to put wood Beretta grips on it to match my other Berettas and called Beretta Customer Service. They told me that the Stoeger is the same gun as the Beretta and the grips would fit with no problem. I ordered them and they did fit perfectly. Second from bottom:


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    I bought a Cougar .40 caliber about a month ago......can't hit the side of a barn with it. With all my other handguns I can shoot 3-4 inch groups at 50 feet. But with the Cougar, I'm shooting 10-12 inch groups....from a rest. It's got slightly less than 100 rounds through it, so for now I'm gonna shoot it a little more, in case it needs breaking-in, and use different brands of ammo. Maybe I can luck-up and find a brand that it likes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donato View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I'll look forward to hearing how it shoots. I wonder how the Cougar stands up to the Sig P250. I have narrowed down my search for a first 9mm to one or the other and possibly the XD9 or CZ 75 P-01. The price difference is amazing.
    I am a SIG fan but the P250 is crap, the trigger sucks, and the ergos are terrible, if you going to go with a SIG the Classic line (P220, P226, P228, P229, P239) is the only way to go. When it comes to CZ the 75 line or 85 for leftys is hard to beat, I perfer the look of the classic 75B but the P01 is a great little gun as well. As for the Cougar I don't own one yet but I am getting one by October, they have great ergos that fit my hand well, I have read nothing but good reviews, and Beretta has never failed me.

    I thought I read a post saying the Cougar was to heavy (but now I cant find it) the PX4 Storm is basically a Polymer version of the Cougar

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    Cougar vs CZ

    I have 2 CZ's,a P01 and a PCR, and a Stoeger Cougar. All 9's. I'd be torn to decide which to keep if I had to choose one. Cougar mags are cheap, check Berettea's website. Good holster's from Ray's Holsters(I have the Sable, great quality and 1/2 the price of most) I also carry the Cougar in a Crossbreed Supertuck, works very well. Cougar has better trigger,both double and single, but haven't done any trigger work on any of them. All 3 are accurate as hell, the CZ's are real tack drivers.CZ's slides are tight, as they are captured in the frame versus outside the frame.CZ's need to be dry-fired and shot a fair amount to work out the trigger.CZ's ergonomics are awesome, trigger reach a little long for me,big meaty hands with not such long fingers. The Cougar's ergonomics are also great, but different than the CZ's, for me not as" tight", ie: my hand has a little more room, and I prefer that in some ways, tho the CZ's tend to force my hands into position. Reloading for the CZ requires shorter OAL than most, Cougar eats anything fed to it and reliable,I'd say CZ a little fussier w ammo.The Cougar is a lot of gun for the money, and would not hesitate to recommend for a first gun. Quality is first rate, and I see none of the tooling marks on the Cougar that I see on my CZ's. The CZ's will outshoot the Cougar,and me for that matter. Both weigh aprox the same and can use the same holsters in a pinch, (the crossbreed not so much) Cougar is easier to feild strip.
    Anyway my 2 cents...

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    This looks like a very nice gun.

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