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    Quote Originally Posted by Donato View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I'll look forward to hearing how it shoots. I wonder how the Cougar stands up to the Sig P250. I have narrowed down my search for a first 9mm to one or the other and possibly the XD9 or CZ 75 P-01. The price difference is amazing.

    The CZ is one of a shooter..You will love that gun..Good choice.

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    Cougar 8000 D???

    I did some research and it looks like there is a Cougar 8000 D - DAO. Are these available in the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donato View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I'll look forward to hearing how it shoots. I wonder how the Cougar stands up to the Sig P250. I have narrowed down my search for a first 9mm to one or the other and possibly the XD9 or CZ 75 P-01. The price difference is amazing.
    I do not own a Cougar, my friend does and I shoot it often. It is solid and the rotating barrel makes for some real tight groups. He bought the Cougar and I bought a SR-9. I really like the SR-9 it is a very good gun and 400 bucks is a steal on this quality of a gun. We switch often. I am going to get a Cougar next and my buddy is getting an SR-9. Both are accurate solid easy to clean and shoot all types of ammo.

    I bought the SR-9 because it was inexpensive and if I wanted another gun I would be able to afford 2. My buddy bought the Cougar for the same reason. Now we both will have 2 guns one hammer fire and one striker back. Pretty much for what a CZ or Sig costs stand alone. I am not saying a bad word about the CZ or the Sig. i have shot both guns and I love the CZ and the Sig has a long and stelar reputation for quality. I just wanted more then one gun and I wanted good guns. The Cougar is a very good gun, I am glad the factory was moved to Turkey because this quality of a weapon for 400 bucks is something that should make you smile!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by recoilguy View Post
    I do not own a Cougar, my friend does and I shoot it often. It is solid and the rotating barrel makes for some real tight groups. He bought the Cougar and I bought a SR-9. I really like the SR-9 it is a very good gun and 400 bucks is a steal on this quality of a gun. We switch often. I am going to get a Cougar next and my buddy is getting an SR-9. Both are accurate solid easy to clean and shoot all types of ammo.

    I bought the SR-9 because it was inexpensive and if I wanted another gun I would be able to afford 2. My buddy bought the Cougar for the same reason. Now we both will have 2 guns one hammer fire and one striker back. Pretty much for what a CZ or Sig costs stand alone. I am not saying a bad word about the CZ or the Sig. i have shot both guns and I love the CZ and the Sig has a long and stelar reputation for quality. I just wanted more then one gun and I wanted good guns. The Cougar is a very good gun, I am glad the factory was moved to Turkey because this quality of a weapon for 400 bucks is something that should make you smile!!!!

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    The SR9 is a gun I am looking at, but I have read negative remarks about its trigger. The other model that interests me alot is the FN Herstal FNP9 which gets rave reviews.

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    The trigger remarks are very much over blown. The old SR-9's had a small trigger issues. The new ones 330-XXXXXX and greater have a very crisp trigger that breaks smoothly and have a good pull. I would not give the trigger hype a second thought.

    The FNP 9 is a great gun. I have never shot one. A guy who I see at the range has one and he loves it. It shots real tight groups and is a mean looking pistol. It seems like you are considering a lot of different guns. If the Cougar is still one you are considering and you want a very good reliable gun that is what you get when you buy the Cougar. If the only reason you have ruled out the SR - 9 is the trigger rethink it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by recoilguy View Post
    The trigger remarks are very much over blown. The old SR-9's had a small trigger issues. The new ones 330-XXXXXX and greater have a very crisp trigger that breaks smoothly and have a good pull. I would not give the trigger hype a second thought.

    The FNP 9 is a great gun. I have never shot one. A guy who I see at the range has one and he loves it. It shots real tight groups and is a mean looking pistol. It seems like you are considering a lot of different guns. If the Cougar is still one you are considering and you want a very good reliable gun that is what you get when you buy the Cougar. If the only reason you have ruled out the SR - 9 is the trigger rethink it.

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    Where did you purchase your SR-9 and how much did you pay for it? I can pick up the FNP9 for just $434.95 + shipping at Clyde Armory.

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    I bought it at the Local Gun Store for $399 with a box of 9mm shells thrown in. That is a good price for the FNP. The store here in town is out of SR-9's as a matter of fact they are out of almost everything right now. Good Luck with what ever you get. Enjoy the gun, clean it regularily, and then start thinking about what to get next.

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    Well I got a little free time this morning and headed out to the range with my new Cougar. This is one heck of a sweet handling pistola. Right out of the box I was getting 2 and three inch groupings at 15 yds. The DA trigger is smooth as butter and the single action pull is absolutely effortless. The grip feel is incredible. Recoil is light and very manageable. Stoeger has done an excellent jog on this gun. This is a keeper for sure. I also took my new Sig P250 IN 45ACP. I'm not sure about this one and not very excited with it. For a full size semi-auto it has a lot of recoil. Maybe it's just me. If I had taken only the Sig I might feel different. After shooting the Cougar the Sig just did not feel that good. I'm not too sure if I like the DAO. I'll give it some more time.

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    good to hear you like it from someone who might purchase it! im not gonna lie, youre making really want one (heck or just any handgun ) enjoy it!

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    Yeah and it is a very good looking gun too. i am always happy to hear good reports on a new pistol. Enjoy!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rccola712 View Post
    good to hear you like it from someone who might purchase it! im not gonna lie, youre making really want one (heck or just any handgun ) enjoy it!
    rccola712, you just might want to ease on down to your dealer and pick one up before Stoeger finds out what a winner they have with this fine piece and up the price. For a $400.00 gun you can't get better than this.

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    When Beretta manufactured the "Beretta 8000 Cougar" it drew rave reviews and many were sold to very happy users across the globe! Extremely reliable, accurate, easy to shot were just a few of the comments that described this gun! You just didn't find a bad review or for that matter a dad comment about this excellent firearm...except one! "It's too expensive!"
    While it was and is a great gun, and Beretta sold a lot of them, it was just overpriced for the market situation it was put in! This along with the rampid proliferation of polymer guns i.e. Glock, and it was just a matter of time till Beretta fazed out this nice piece.

    The Cougar was then brought back in a deal with the Turkish Ministry of Defense to manufacture the Stoeger 8000 Cougar, (Stoeger is a fully owned subsidiary of Beretta holding inc.). Beretta shipped the entire Cougar production line from Italy to Turkey and the new Stoeger Cougar is manufactured on the exact same machines and tooling as the original Beretta branded model with Beretta overseeing QC! The only difference is the name stamped on the gun and the price you pay for it!



    Clarification...I think?

    If I remember this right Stoeger is officially owned by Benelli and Benelli is officially owned by Beretta and they are all operated by Beretta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougsboy View Post
    Well I got a little free time this morning and headed out to the range with my new Cougar. This is one heck of a sweet handling pistola. Right out of the box I was getting 2 and three inch groupings at 15 yds. The DA trigger is smooth as butter and the single action pull is absolutely effortless. The grip feel is incredible. Recoil is light and very manageable. Stoeger has done an excellent jog on this gun. This is a keeper for sure. I also took my new Sig P250 IN 45ACP. I'm not sure about this one and not very excited with it. For a full size semi-auto it has a lot of recoil. Maybe it's just me. If I had taken only the Sig I might feel different. After shooting the Cougar the Sig just did not feel that good. I'm not too sure if I like the DAO. I'll give it some more time.
    Thanks for sharing your range report, Dougboy. That Cougar pistol sounds like a gem. I'd like to find one to rent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougsboy View Post
    Well I got a little free time this morning and headed out to the range with my new Cougar. This is one heck of a sweet handling pistola. Right out of the box I was getting 2 and three inch groupings at 15 yds. The DA trigger is smooth as butter and the single action pull is absolutely effortless. The grip feel is incredible. Recoil is light and very manageable. Stoeger has done an excellent jog on this gun. This is a keeper for sure. I also took my new Sig P250 IN 45ACP. I'm not sure about this one and not very excited with it. For a full size semi-auto it has a lot of recoil. Maybe it's just me. If I had taken only the Sig I might feel different. After shooting the Cougar the Sig just did not feel that good. I'm not too sure if I like the DAO. I'll give it some more time.
    Thanks for the report... I also read several of the reviews on this particular weapon and decided to purchase one as a CCW and truck gun.. Just pick it up a couple of weeks ago.. Anxious to shoot it, even more so now that I read your report...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougsboy View Post
    Well I got a little free time this morning and headed out to the range with my new Cougar. This is one heck of a sweet handling pistola. Right out of the box I was getting 2 and three inch groupings at 15 yds. The DA trigger is smooth as butter and the single action pull is absolutely effortless. The grip feel is incredible. Recoil is light and very manageable. Stoeger has done an excellent jog on this gun. This is a keeper for sure. I also took my new Sig P250 IN 45ACP. I'm not sure about this one and not very excited with it. For a full size semi-auto it has a lot of recoil. Maybe it's just me. If I had taken only the Sig I might feel different. After shooting the Cougar the Sig just did not feel that good. I'm not too sure if I like the DAO. I'll give it some more time.
    Thanks for letting us know about your experience with the Sig 250. That was a handgun I have been looking at - among others - and I did not like the part about it having "a lot of recoil." As you said, maybe it was just in comparison to the Cougar's lighter recoil that it felt worse to you, but as for the Cougar independent gun reviewers (e.g., gun-tests.com) also report that the Cougar "eats up recoil," even in 40mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donato View Post
    Thanks for letting us know about your experience with the Sig 250. That was a handgun I have been looking at - among others - and I did not like the part about it having "a lot of recoil." As you said, maybe it was just in comparison to the Cougar's lighter recoil that it felt worse to you, but as for the Cougar independent gun reviewers (e.g., gun-tests.com) also report that the Cougar "eats up recoil," even in 40mm.
    You're right. In comparison to the Cougar probably wasn't a good comparison. I have since sold the Sig and purchased a new CZ97b. I haven't tested it yet but it is much heavier than the Sig so it should handle recoil a bit better.

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    Dougsboy,
    How is the grip on the Cougar? Do you find it comfortable and ergonomic? I only got to handle a Beretta PX4 and I found that a little "fat" for my smallish hands. Does the Cougar come with various grip sizes? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donato View Post
    Dougsboy,
    How is the grip on the Cougar? Do you find it comfortable and ergonomic? I only got to handle a Beretta PX4 and I found that a little "fat" for my smallish hands. Does the Cougar come with various grip sizes? Thanks!
    Donato, I also have small hands but the Cougar feels extremely comfortable in my smallish hands. It has a rather roundish feel to it but I like that. The trigger reach even in double action is very good. I don't believe the Cougar comes with different grip sizes. I've never handled a PX4 but I sure like the looks of it.

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    I've decided that the Cougar will probably be my next gun. I want something a bit more compact than my 96, and the Cougar just feels...familiar. It feels like my Beretta, and I like that. The PX4 feels a bit lighter, but it seems more bulky to me. I guess it's a good thing nobody around here has it in 9mm, or I may have already bought one. I already have two .40s, so I wanted to diversify a bit.

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    Cougar & reloads

    I went to the range again last night to test some new hand loads in my Cougar.

    Shot 200 rounds of 165g JHP over various amounts of TightGroup powder and Magtech small pistal primers.


    First impression is that I STILL LOVE MY COUGAR. This thing ate up all my reloads without any complaints, slips, nothing. It was ALL BUSINESS regardless of the powder charge. The thing cycled and fired every time.


    I found that moderate loads were the most accurate. I couldn't get the real light loads to group and the heavy loads scared me as I progressed up near the top of the load data charts. I must say the gun didn't complain and the recoil increase was hardly worth noting. I just didn't feel comfortable.

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