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Liko81
11-26-2007, 09:42 PM
It's very simple; what is your preferred stance for target shooting at the range, and do you use that same stance for defense purposes?

I use Chapman. Pros: very natural, rifle-like stance, good recoil control, easy to sight. Cons: the stiff gun arm can cause some shoulder aches when doing a lot of shooting.

js
11-26-2007, 09:45 PM
The Weaver stance for me...

cupsz71
11-27-2007, 07:37 AM
Tried quite a few them, even some "creative ones" of my own. But the most comfortable that worked for me even as a cross-eye dominant shooter is a Modern Weaver variant. The Weaver felt more "natural" and gave me what I feel was better control and overall aim on target.:draw:

But hey, that's just me.

Mike Barham
11-27-2007, 08:49 AM
At the range I shoot from Modern Isoceles, when I use a stance. I do a lot of practice shooting while moving and from cover, so my "stance" is seldom a textbook application of any of the popular ones. In a home defense scenario, I don't necessarily expect to "stand and deliver" from my preferred stance. Rather, I expect to be moving through the fight - perhaps even closing with the invader - or firing from cover or concealment.

Sometimes I will fire with only the strong hand, if I am moving across the target from (my) right to left. Sometimes I will wind up a bastardized Weaver if moving from left to right. Going forward or backward or at diagonals, I will be in something resembling Mod Iso. I believe one should be able to move fluidly between these techniques, and not be locked into fighting only one way.

I find Mod Iso lends itself the best to both recoil management (not the same as recoil reduction) and as a platform for shooting on the move in almost all directions, since foot position is far less important in Mod Iso than in Weaver or its Chapman derivative. However, I have seen excellent shooting done from all stances.

Lastly, I believe a correct grip (I use "The Grip" as popularized by Leatham, Enos, etc.) on the pistol is far more important than the positioning of the arms or feet.

JeffWard
12-02-2007, 08:03 PM
My Fiance, Carla, was asking me about proper stance.

She snapped a few pictures of herself while I was at work... to demonstrate:

This stance is the low-ready position... sizing up potential targets, but completely safe. Control...
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee197/Jeff_Ward/CarlaXD1.jpg

This stance is a one handed grip, in case her non-shooting hand is needed for something else, like... fighting off rabid men...
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee197/Jeff_Ward/CarlaXD2.jpg

This stance is a full-on Combat Isosolese, double-fisted technique. Note the cute little Lady-Smith revolver, and the Custom Nickel P226. She prefers the Smith in her stronger right hand here, for recoil control...
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee197/Jeff_Ward/CarlaSig-Smith.jpg

She's looking forward to any instructive/constructive comments, if her technique needs to be corrected. Don't be shy. She can take constructive criticism...

Jeff

cupsz71
12-02-2007, 08:23 PM
Yep yer right...........her stance(s) are WAY BETTER! :smt023

milquetoast
12-04-2007, 10:43 PM
I would just like to say, for the record, that I do not use a wide stance!

JeffWard
12-05-2007, 07:04 AM
Carla's problem is concealed carry...

Where?

TOF
12-05-2007, 09:01 AM
We really need additional views to properly evaluate her stance Jeff. Side, quartering away etc. It just wouldn’t be right to hurry this evaluation. :smt083

:smt1099

JeffWard
12-17-2007, 06:06 AM
I've seen every angle, and her "technique" is quite tight... Every angle is flawless in my eyes. And in THOSE shoes...

I guess the higher the ground, the better the position. Brilliant strategist. How well she moves laterally in them while firing is yet to be tested....

babs
12-21-2007, 08:36 PM
:watching: Ok.. you got my attention now. yeeehaw!

But seriously folks.. Is there a website that tells the newbie here about these different proper 'stances' and 'grips'?

Daaaaaahhhaaaang.. them are some million dollar legs! Ok.. had to say it.

Mike Barham
12-22-2007, 08:09 AM
I posted some pics of the various stances, along with some detailed descriptions, over here at the sister forum: http://www.rifleforum.net/showthread.php?t=140.

L8models
12-25-2007, 07:42 PM
Weaver stance for me.

Steve M1911A1
05-11-2009, 10:31 PM
Your poll doesn't include enough choices. Specifically, it doesn't have "All of the above."
Also, your tally isn't working. Check it out. Click on "poll results," and you're transported to Never-Never Land.

Although I prefer to use the Weaver stance, I'll use anything that works at the moment of need.
That includes prone, "forced" positions, and impromptu stances and supports.

clanger
05-15-2009, 11:59 AM
Stance is a matter of convenience.

The incident will dictate what stance you are shooting from, prone, behind cover, kneeling, laying on your side, weak side shots, from a ramp, etc.

The most important thing is getting the round(s) on target and achieving a hit that significantly reduces, or totally eliminates, it's ability to present a lethal threat.

*

Bullseye? Same goes for target shooting- whatever works, Weaver, Iso, Creedmore etc. (or is allowed by the sanctioning body)

The Weaver Stance was pretty instrumental and there's quite a few stories written about the man and some of his constituents, interesting reading.

jump15vc
05-28-2009, 12:02 AM
when i first started shooting i naturally fell into a chapman stance (probably from tv and movies haha) but as i experimented more i found myself to be more accurate with a modified weaver

monsterbass
05-28-2009, 01:10 PM
I prefer the one legged stance, HAR,HAR

TheReaper
05-28-2009, 06:36 PM
Weaver and variants.

dondavis3
12-08-2009, 09:29 PM
I use the Modified Weaver Stance with its isometric "push-pull" of the firing hand (pushing the gun forward) and support hand (pulling the gun backward with support hand finger on front of trigger guard, if possible) for my steady shooting.

:smt1099

TripleTapWarrior
01-07-2010, 12:31 PM
Hello All,

I like the ol' FBI "cop 'n squat"... No offense :smt1099

It depends on whether you are range shooting, competition shooting, or shooting defensively...

Whatever works, for whatever you are doing (training for), use it!

What you need to train for, is to be able to get into your patented shooters stance without thinking about it (mushin - no mind), and if it works, then use it! And if it doesn't, then work on it more...

Stay Safe, Train Safe

Dan - TripleTapWarrior

gunnersmith
01-07-2010, 03:05 PM
I use which ever stance is best applied to the situation. There really isn't a right or wrong stance just what works best for the situation.

cougartex
01-22-2010, 05:11 PM
Weaver stance.

zhurdan
02-04-2010, 04:02 PM
I use Modern Iso with a clamshell type grip, holding the pistol firmly the majority of the time, but as has been said, the situation dictates the stance. More aggressive shooting means more aggressive stance.

gunsite
02-08-2010, 12:21 PM
Today... when people ask what stance do i use... i say put me in one and i'll shoot.

Beginners need to start by using a comfortable BALANCE stance, but all great shooting comes down to MECHANICS, and a proper BALANCE stance is the start of developing those MECHANICS. Once those MECHANICS are mastered, hitting your target in the forum of target shooting, using a BALANCED stance should be practice.

I use a combination of positions more than a stance, like CLANGER mentioned " Stance is a matter of convenience " and some good points mentioned by.., Mike Barham

falchunt
02-09-2010, 09:48 AM
90% of the time I use weaver. It has always felt more natural for me. But I do not have any problem shooting Isoceles, or any of the variants of the two. I like to practice shooting from less comfortable positions like left handed or unbalanced footing to help prepare for any situation that might arrise. This is strictly for the defensive shooting however, and would benefit nobody for competition shooting. :)